How did you start relying on your skill enough to start full time as an artistic metalsmith?

It took me many years working as a industrial metalworker, going to courses, sweating blood etc, but finally Im a master.
25% (2 votes)
I've always been able to picture whats in my impressive mind, doing it in metal is just a choice of material.
50% (4 votes)
I picked up my shovel and I walked to the mine, I loaded sixteen tons of number-nine coal...
0% (0 votes)
If I didn't have a family to support I would start full time, just to risky.
13% (1 vote)
I will never rely on my skill enough to start full time as an artistic metalsmith.
13% (1 vote)
Total votes: 8
Ries's picture

You have a few cute choices,

You have a few cute choices, but none of em describe the real life of most people I know.

The fact is, most people who are artists, cant help it. They make things because they need to, because its the thing in life they enjoy the most.

Some of those people have the other skills needed to make a living at it- people skills, money skills, the ability to jump off a cliff without looking back, and a supportive family.

And others of them dont- they have various reasons why they work a regular job, and make art on the side. Sometimes it might be a kid who needs expensive health coverage, or an aversion to risk, or just an inability to talk themselves up.

Both kinds of people can be master metalsmiths.
Personally, I have always been pretty unemployable, so I have figured out ways to make a living from metal for almost 30 years. But when I started out, I wasnt that good- just ambitious. I would take jobs, with little idea how to actually do them, then fake it. And in so doing, I learned a lot.
But learning is a lifelong thing- I just know enough now to know how much I dont know.

So on your poll, I fit in somewhere between the "spent a lot of time in the trenches" and " I am a self employed artist" categories.
I just had to dig my own trenches first.


B.J. Severtson's picture

Ries is so right.

It all started with a famous art schools add on a book of matches at the age of six. Never did take the test, but I did burn the neighbors barn down. From that moment on I knew that fire would play a major part in my life. This career allows me to get paid for playing with fire. Just can't help it. Brad


don thibodeaux's picture

Where does it come from?

I think it's in my genes. I have a great wife, who's job supports our family enough so I can be who I am. And I'm very lucky that I can work in different art fields in order to keep my mind and pocket book right. Don't get me wrong, I've waited on a lot of tables over the years, and it helped me become a full time working artist. I can't remember anything else moving me other than being an artist. But again, a strong sense of your artistic voice and the ability to make money at it helps. I am a lucky guy. Oh yeah, my daughter is following in my footsteps, and I hope she can do it (life as an artist) better than my father and I are doing.

Don T. She's three and she's learning the family trade, just like her father did from his father.my little metal artist leaving the studio: She's three and she's learning the family trade, just like her father did from his father.


byJohan se's picture

That's well said... Usually

That's well said...

Usually it's just a matter of making it work - doing whatever it takes to make a living and then year by year living more and more by what your art brings. //Johan

May-August 2007, Lilla Galleriet, Boden Sweden
junk artist site | byJohan.se

Junk art - www.byjohan.se

Contemporary sculptures | byJohan.se
Skulptur | byJohan.se på svenska

Emfairmeadows's picture

Interesting topic, but what answer really suits us?

I managed to marry a stone carver who can not/will not do anything other than stone carving related things. Hopefully one day he will be successful enough that I can hire someone else to run our business so that I can play with metal full time.

Out of the two of us I'm the most employable, but it seemed to make sense for me to work for our business rather than working for someone else.

When our kids are older I might create more of my own work.

Elizabeth M. Meadows
Mother, Metal Sculptor in that order.

"When in doubt, use a sledgehammer. It helps!"


Rich Waugh's picture

None of your poll choices

None of your poll choices appeal to me much. I am a metal artist because that's what I am. Whether or not I make a living at it has no relevance to my status. Just like whether or not I make a living has no relevance to my eye color; it is what it is.

I've done lots of things to make a living. Shoeshine boy, TV repair, machinist's helper, welder, teacher, silversmith, law enforcement, sign contractor, law enforcement again, blacksmith, consultant, cabinet maker, etc. I probably left out a few or maybe even several. It's been an interesting ride for the past forty or fifty years since I started working as a shoeshine boy in the local barbershop.

The one real constant is that I have always made things. Some practical, some creative, some purely whimsical. But all made for the sake of making them as much as for the sake of reaching a certain objective. I like creating things. I really love creating things that are artistic and attractive (at least to me). If no one ever bought a single thing, I would still make them. Just like I keep on breathing.


SteelyJan's picture

Why,How, What + When !!!!!

Hi Everyone!

First of all let me say the past couple of discussions have been just amazing. Ries , I love your thinking!!! i started out in an art high school, hated it , did nothing for years.(just worked + goofed around.) Then it began calling to me again, like that siren on the rocks causing your ship to crash into it. Art! After a few disciplines I found welding.... instant love. It's hot, it's dirty ' it's physical. I started welding found objects, crude yet engaging. Then the need for furniture propelled me into a
functional direction. It progresed. Every day I learn alittle something. And like Ries said I learn how much I don't know!!! But I find that I have made every idea ,no matter how impossible and technically challenging it might be. I love what I do. When I have to work a "regular gig" like working in a store or such I realize how much time I'm wasting . Even if I make a little candlestick holder that sells for $50. it's still better then spending eight hours a day at a job. We do what we can do. Janet


warren's picture

Risky

I am going to go into the direction of being too risky because of the family. Back in the early seventies when I first started doing my metal art it was for fun and the challenge, not to be an artist………….hobby. I had a good paying day job with all of the benefits, so I thought I could not leave all of that yet.
Then with three daughters and the family activities my hours in the shop dropped off. So I was never really able to tell if I could make a living at being an artist. I felt I never had the opportunity to quit the day job; always something.
Now I am to where I can control my own shop hours. I have reviewed how many hours I spend working on my metal art and what it pays. I guess my problem is I like to make metal art more for fun and the challenge instead of doing it for the bucks. I do not like all of the hassles of trying to sell my work, which I think is the hardest part of being an artist. I never wanted to get in the rut of just making art to just sell to support myself.

Still working the day job.
warren


Paula's picture

art for art sake or how to make a living at what you love to do?

What did Janet Rutkowski say? "it is what it is"... I can relate! I also agree with Ries, "The fact is, most people who are artists, cant help it."

I have found that if I can't create in one way shape or form, I get depressed. My husband can vouch for that... not fun, not fun at all.........If you have 'art' in you, it has a way of coming out in your life. I believe it's the job of the artist to help others to see the world in new ways; to take a closer look at what is around them. Also it's the artist's job to have fun and enjoy their ability to create....

I'm also Very fortunate to have a spouse who supports my 'habit' but is also my teacher in so many ways. He is the one who got me started in metal work, having been a millwright for 30 years and a hobby blacksmith on the side. He saw talent and believed in me before i did... fortunate is putting it mildly... anyway... obviously a lot of great thinkers on this site...

Paula