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SteelyJan -
Tuesday, July 3, 2007 - 7:33pm
Architectural Gallery Here's a screen I had to reproduce from an early French design. Since I have no blacksmithing skills I had to weld flat pieces of steel together and shape the dimensional pieces with a die grinder. EEK! Anyway I managed to do it. Janet R. That must have taken you some time
Paula -
Wednesday, July 4, 2007 - 10:23am
I think you did a great job! (No blacksmithing skills aside....??) A lot of 'blacksmiths' use die grinders and welders.... me included.....is that a bad thing? Paula » reply Excellent work !!
chrisp -
Wednesday, July 4, 2007 - 3:12pm
Very nice. Just so you know Janet , I own both a welder and a die grinder. » reply You did a great job Janet.
QuiQue -
Wednesday, July 4, 2007 - 4:43pm
You did a great job Janet. Especially with no blacksmithing skills! Heck, it's probably easier now a days to get pre-manufactured components to make these types of gates anyway. The only problem I see with pre-manufactured components is that the cost of them can cut into your profits. Then again, if you price the job right, there is no need to worry about the extra costs. I think I need to clarify a bit about having the skills of a blacksmith. The only reason to have these skills is when you want to design and make hand forged objects which are unique. In other words, making things that are not commonly found in production facilities. Many of the forms we use to make gates are traditional forms that are now made by manufacturing facilities. The average user can not tell the difference between a mass produced S-scroll and one that is hand forged with all the textures that are shown by the smithy's hand. This misconception, or lack of understanding, is the main reason there are few blacksmith craftsmen producing artwork today. That is why it is important to educate the public in the appreciation of properly hand crafted artwork. It's all okay though. There is a place for everything. And your gate turned out beautiful! You are very talented Janet. Thanks for sharing! BTW, I too have a welder and grinder. Use them all the time! What's wonderful about the age we live in is that there are so many more tools which help us accomplish our design objectives. I think the old timers would of loved to have lived in our modern times with all the tools we have at our disposal. » reply Regardless of what some
Rich Waugh -
Thursday, July 5, 2007 - 12:27am
Regardless of what some folks think, there's no sin in using a welder or a die grinder, or even a CNC laser. I know for a fact that Franncis Whitaker had a buzz box and an OA torch, as did Sam Yellin. I've seen some pieces of Edgar Brandt's that clearly show evidence of welding by means other than the forge. Historically, blacksmiths have been at the forefront of the development of new tools and techniques, and embrace new technologies when they come along. Petersen, the guy who invented the ViseGrip pliers, was a blacksmith trying to develop a set of tongs that would fit many differeent sizes of stock. Thomas Davenport, inventor of the electric motor, was a blacksmith. Cyrus McCormick, inventor of the mechanical reaper, was a blacksmith. If any of those guys had had the opportunity to use a TIG welder, a plasmacutter, a CAD/CAM system, youcan bet they would have. I believe every metalsmith should learn to do things without the aid of welders, grinders, plasma torches and the like, so that they can learn firsthand the fundamental processes that are being employed and the characteristics of the met that are being exploited. After you've learned the "hard way", wheter or not you continue to do it that way is up to you. There's no sin in using a MIG gun, as Steve Parker says. Tat does not mean, however, that pasting together a bunch of mass-produced elements from King Architectural Metals with a glue gun make syou a blacksmith. It makes you a fabricator, not a smith. That's okay too, but don't misrepresent the work as hand-forged. Learning to forge is a great way to learn the characteristics of metal that make it what it is. The best fabricators are those who have learned to forge, and who use forged elements in their work, even when thebulk of it is fabricated. At least, that's my pinion. Your mileage may vary, and that's okay too. » reply Thanks Everybody!!!!
SteelyJan -
Thursday, July 5, 2007 - 6:39am
Thanks for your wonderful comments.UhOh... I have to confess (Rich) when I am doing a big railing job I do buy scrolls from King Architectural! And I love working with alot of their smaller elements and pasting them together. I used to make my own scrolls with handmade jigs and oxy-acetelene but it's not cost effective. But..... I always try in introduce a hand made element or something that ends up taking me far too much time. I love working with metal and only hope to continue to grow and learn. » reply Hi Janet: I think that`s a
NELSON -
Thursday, February 28, 2008 - 1:21pm
Hi Janet: I think that`s a nice and delicate piece ofwork, regardless of techniques you used or didn`t use. "In art,at war,and love making, anything goes" I`m a horse lover so would like to see your stainlees-wood horse... thumbs up for talented gals like you! Nelson. » reply wow!
FrankV -
Thursday, July 5, 2007 - 5:23pm
that looks great! once I get my skills up a bit, I would love to work on projects like that. Where do you get you raw materials from? One issue I have is finding metal suppliers locally that will sell retail. I have to rely on getting off cuts from friends or mail order (which sucks!) shipping=OUCH!! » reply Hi Frank , have you checked
chrisp -
Friday, July 6, 2007 - 9:47pm
Hi Frank , have you checked your local Yellow Pages? Look under "Steel suppliers" , or ask your local supplier where you get your oxy-gas from , he will know a good place to call. We have many here (Southern New Hampshire), and a couple of places will even will deliver it as long as I spend 200.00 bucks. Good luck..........chrisp » reply Awesome!
schultzy -
Thursday, February 28, 2008 - 11:12am
Wow! That's so awesome! Certainly would never guess that you didn't have any blacksmithing skills. » reply Mmmm.. .mmm
Will Jones -
Thursday, February 28, 2008 - 3:43pm
That's gorgeous Janet. » reply Janet, Good looking screen.
Gerald Boggs -
Friday, February 29, 2008 - 8:21am
Janet, Good looking screen. Blacksmithing is just one way of doing metalwork. It doesn't own the exclusive rights to it. While I like blacksmithing and try to do as much of my work as possible using a hammer and anvil, I too have a welder and die grinder. :-) So tell us, how'd you make the knot? Rich, I've got the biography on Edgar Brandt and according to it, Mr. Brandt openly embraced modern tools and methods. Like you wrote, Samuel Yellin used modern tools to do much of his work, he just wasn't as open about it. Gerald » reply Janet, I like this allot. I
mele miller -
Friday, February 29, 2008 - 4:42pm
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Janet,
Amazing what metal will let you do to it isn't it. Beautiful work. Impressive. For those of us that aren't taking a blacksmith route, it would be nice to see some of your techniques.
Laurie O
Anoka