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newell post end scroll
enchanted iron -
Wednesday, October 7, 2009 - 10:11pm
Architectural Gallery | stair railings ![]() this was a stair rail that consisted of 40 ft of reverse twist railing(which i started trying to figure out after seeing e. vegas twisting machine on his website several years back....) i used different kinds of bar stock through-out, square,hex,rectangle cold and hot rolled steel. the small diameter balusters would take 15 to 20 minutes each while the bigger bar took up to 45 min. each. the 1.5" post on the end in this pic took me and my two guys about 4 hours for a little over a foot of twist, we would get about 1/2 a twist per heat. anywhoo...the top cap i used was a piece of 3/8"x2" flat bar which we ran through the forge and hammered a texture in it. i tapered the last two feet to a point and then twisted that and formed the scroll. now the bad news...my client thought it was a little to "nightmare before christmas" (Tim Burton Movie) look and she even mentioned a "scorpion tale" so i did what i do best sometimes, cut it off and put a traditional scroll on the end, she loved it-all was well. i dont think ill ever get past learning those hard lessons! anyway ill have the complete rail pics on before long..... ![]() re-do's
enchanted iron -
Friday, October 9, 2009 - 10:43am
yes, i usually always start with a sketch or a variation of a photo....these homes i work in around here are usually over 10,000 ft and require many different projects to be designed and installed and usually no matter what the client has approved i end up having to change a few things. i always of course charge for any changes from an approved design but it it still very frustrating to have to cut something off i have spent so much time on. if your like me though nothing ends up in the trash and can usually be used later on a different project. as a matter of fact, this same home that i had to change this scroll end on i am currently having to completely rebuild a bar railing in the theater room... everything was perfect on the railing but when they finally received their "custom" theater seating the seat backs wouldnt recline between the support posts for the railing behind them, each post was about 4 inches off. so.......rather than have new chairs made and sent from italy it is cheaper for them to have me rebuild a new railing. sometimes it seems neverending....i loved your railing you sent me a link to by the way, i had looked at that a week or two ago. very nice, that looked like an impossible transistion you made between those materials. id love to see a closeup or top view of that if you happen to have one anywhere. thanks again for the feedback. ![]() transition closeup
Stephen Fitz-Gerald -
Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 2:31am
Stephen Fitz-Gerald Here's a different view of my newel post, the bare frame set up with my previously installed railing to give the client an idea of the transition and flow. It was the last piece for the whole project and arguably the most important one since it went down a short grade and had the only real ornamentation. I knew I had to somehow take the viewers eye and make it dive into the ground. The twist in the newel allowed me to camouflage the transition from the flatbar for the caprail to the square stock for the post. I'm with you 100% when you say nothing is thrown away,just reappears in another project... |
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Stephen Fitz-Gerald
Neil,
Don't you show your clients sketches,and get them approved before expending so much time on an iffy design?
Not iffy in my mind by the way,I think it lovely.
I did something in the same size stock for a transition from a caprail to a heavier newel post:
http://ou8nrtist2.deviantart.com/art/Last-Section-of-quot-Kelp-quot-Railing-69901736