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Chatlog on Book Exhibition at ArtMetal

webminster - Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 12:17am
OT: Sandbox YAK | Metal Books Exhibition | |

Relevant Summary:

Title: "(Can't) Judge a book by its cover: METAL BOOKS: AN exhbition of the book as artifact."

Purpose:To explore the concept of encapsulating human imagination through the message of metal. If it looks like a book, reads like a book, feels like a book and swims like a book it may still be other than a book. A physical manifestation of imagination expressed through our common medium.

‹Emfairmeadows› The images of the pages of the book will be submitted in February. The online show will start in March.

Un-edited chatlog:

20:59:20 ‹VRock› [b][/b]Hello there to an ArtMetal chat(X)

10/11/2006 20:59:23 * Emfairmeadows joins ArtMetal Chat Cafe
10/11/2006 20:59:33 ‹QuiQue› yea, I saw it. Thing is I was taken away from the chat. That shouldn't happen.
10/11/2006 20:59:38 ‹Emfairmeadows› Hello
10/11/2006 21:00:01 ‹VRock› Hey there, Eliz! Weather is fine
10/11/2006 21:00:14 ‹Emfairmeadows› Great did it blow over?
10/11/2006 21:00:37 ‹QuiQue› Emfairmeadows, hi! (ci)
10/11/2006 21:00:41 ‹VRock› Yep. Really was gangbusters there!
10/11/2006 21:01:18 ‹VRock› WELCOME! (T) to an ArtMetal Chat!
10/11/2006 21:01:18 ‹Emfairmeadows› Hey Enrique:)
10/11/2006 21:02:07 ‹VRock› I am Valerie Rock (VRocK) and I am happy<:o)<:o) you're here!
10/11/2006 21:02:43 ‹VRock› A week ago I saw some Metal Books posted on the web as images
10/11/2006 21:02:52 ‹QuiQue› VRock, I'm <:o) you're here too! :-D
10/11/2006 21:03:01 ‹VRock› And I got real excited about making one of my own.
10/11/2006 21:03:33 ‹VRock› Introduced the topic to my students - (U) I guess am more thrilled about making one
10/11/2006 21:03:42 ‹QuiQue› So, have you started making your book yet?
10/11/2006 21:04:02 ‹VRock› TONIGHT I want to get some input about an ONLINE EXHIBITION of art metal books
10/11/2006 21:04:30 ‹QuiQue› okay.
10/11/2006 21:04:41 ‹VRock› In sketchbook and in mind there are many ideas in progress
10/11/2006 21:04:41 ‹Emfairmeadows› I think the important thing is that we leave the media open.
10/11/2006 21:05:00 ‹Emfairmeadows› As long as it is 3d
10/11/2006 21:05:05 ‹QuiQue› media as to metal?
10/11/2006 21:05:08 ‹VRock› Yes, I really liked your description about it having metal "somewhere" in it
10/11/2006 21:05:17 ‹VRock› Yep, 3D is good..
10/11/2006 21:05:18 ‹Emfairmeadows› with at least one piece of metal in it.
10/11/2006 21:06:10 ‹Emfairmeadows› the fact that the viewers are on the artmetal.com site hopefully will bring a majority of metalish books.
10/11/2006 21:06:25 ‹QuiQue› So, the book cover can be made of paper, or anything else, and as long as their is a piece of metal on it, it will pass the criteria?
10/11/2006 21:07:01 ‹Emfairmeadows› I think so because it is still a book.
10/11/2006 21:07:03 ‹VRock› sounds good, yes
10/11/2006 21:07:14 ‹VRock› and perhaps assemblages of existing books.
10/11/2006 21:07:30 ‹QuiQue› So what is the purpose of the exhibition again?
10/11/2006 21:07:38 ‹Emfairmeadows› If someone were to weave pages from wire it would be fiber and metal at the same time
10/11/2006 21:08:04 ‹VRock› Purpose is to get people to have a theme and get excited to make something
10/11/2006 21:08:12 ‹VRock› ANd then have a venue to post to.
10/11/2006 21:08:34 ‹QuiQue› Don't get me wrong. I really like the idea, but I'm going to play the devils advocate to make sure we cover all possible questions.
10/11/2006 21:08:37 ‹VRock› Also purpose is to get people at artmetal out of the woodwork so to speak and interacting
10/11/2006 21:08:58 ‹VRock› That's great, QQ8o|
10/11/2006 21:09:40 ‹VRock› I want to put up a boilerplate site that people can post their image to as well as enter their personal infpo
10/11/2006 21:09:43 ‹QuiQue› So, exactly what is the motivation here other than being artsy.
10/11/2006 21:10:10 ‹VRock› Motivation is to celebrate the book
10/11/2006 21:10:25 ‹QuiQue› ?
10/11/2006 21:10:30 ‹marilyn› Hi Everyone
10/11/2006 21:10:36 ‹VRock› And to express what the essence of "book-ness is to us
10/11/2006 21:10:40 ‹Emfairmeadows› Hi Marilyn!
10/11/2006 21:10:42 ‹VRock› HEY MARILYN
10/11/2006 21:10:45 ‹QuiQue› marilyn, (F)
10/11/2006 21:11:16 ‹VRock› purpose to have a theme that people think about and get their juices/voices flowing
10/11/2006 21:11:35 ‹marilyn› I just got here so I'm going to scroll back to see what has been said.
10/11/2006 21:11:39 ‹Emfairmeadows› The artist book is a very interesting project because there are so many options.
10/11/2006 21:12:14 ‹QuiQue› what is the essence of "book-ness"? I'm a bit confused.*-)
10/11/2006 21:12:20 ‹VRock› I personally am excited by the books I saw of ALex and Liz. I am making some.
10/11/2006 21:12:27 ‹Emfairmeadows› A book contains words, numbers, images, blank pages, thoughts, poems, textures, feelings...
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10/11/2006 21:13:24 ‹QuiQue› Emfairmeadows, okay. now I'm starting to see a bit of purpose. Please expand the concept
10/11/2006 21:13:48 ‹marilyn› I've always loved to read. Therefore, I love books.
10/11/2006 21:13:55 ‹Emfairmeadows› Books have a significant presence in most of our lives
10/11/2006 21:14:16 ‹Emfairmeadows› We read to our children. Our children create books at school.
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10/11/2006 21:14:33 ‹VRock› I know that I get excited by a "project theme"
10/11/2006 21:14:34 ‹marilyn› I have seen a number of handmaid books including one of enameled metal.
10/11/2006 21:14:54 ‹marilyn› Size shouldn't matter.
10/11/2006 21:15:00 ‹QuiQue› So books can capture time. They can communicate...
10/11/2006 21:15:02 ‹VRock› what do you think about making a metal book, M?
10/11/2006 21:15:22 ‹marilyn› I think it's a good idea.
10/11/2006 21:15:43 ‹VRock› and they are a counterpoint/ almost an artifact to our childhoods
10/11/2006 21:15:45 ‹marilyn› It's good motivation to have someplace to show them.
10/11/2006 21:16:08 ‹Emfairmeadows› I love reading too. I've always read alot, so being able to create my own book makes me happy, reminds me of curling up with a book for 4 hours.
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10/11/2006 21:16:19 ‹VRock› I like the motvation of a place to show . Gives a deadline too
10/11/2006 21:16:28 ‹marilyn› There really doesn't have to be anything written in them, right?
10/11/2006 21:16:40 ‹Emfairmeadows› No
10/11/2006 21:16:48 ‹marilyn› What was the suggested due date?
10/11/2006 21:16:52 ‹VRock› nope, consider baby books...
10/11/2006 21:16:58 ‹Emfairmeadows› It could be whatever you feel should be in a book
10/11/2006 21:17:13 ‹Emfairmeadows› patterns, textures, techniques
10/11/2006 21:17:18 ‹QuiQue› So, if there is no content, then the purpose is not to make a book, but to make a book binder?
10/11/2006 21:17:34 ‹Emfairmeadows› the page of soldering
10/11/2006 21:17:48 ‹marilyn› Humm, good point.
10/11/2006 21:18:06 ‹VRock› book binder yes....but also the essence of book/what is suggested when you think of metal book
10/11/2006 21:18:14 ‹VRock› HEAVY TOME :$
10/11/2006 21:18:30 ‹QuiQue› I thought the purpose was to create art.... metal... ;)
10/11/2006 21:18:38 ‹Emfairmeadows› Just because words aren't in it doesn't make it a bookbinder, I think.
10/11/2006 21:18:57 ‹VRock› HMmm, Liz, would could have it be ENGRAVED in stone....(inside)
10/11/2006 21:19:09 ‹marilyn› there are many blank books sold.
10/11/2006 21:19:15 ‹Emfairmeadows› Ha ha
10/11/2006 21:19:26 ‹VRock› and the blank books suggest POTENTIAL..!
10/11/2006 21:19:33 ‹QuiQue› It doesn't have to have words. It does have to have content though if it is going to be called a "book."
10/11/2006 21:19:53 ‹marilyn› Potential ... that sounds good
10/11/2006 21:19:54 ‹VRock› can't judge a book by its cover....
10/11/2006 21:20:18 ‹Emfairmeadows› I love blank books because I like to fill them with drawings and writing.
10/11/2006 21:20:24 ‹QuiQue› marilyn, the blank books are diaries, aren't they?
10/11/2006 21:20:47 ‹VRock› I am already thinking of the book representing personnae...spikey outside,,,,rough, dangerous...And velvety fiber inside.
10/11/2006 21:21:22 ‹VRock› Remember the velveteen rabbit book.....and the rabbit was flocked so you could feel it
10/11/2006 21:21:31 ‹marilyn› Diaries have pages with words ... month, day, year with spaces to be written in
10/11/2006 21:21:45 ‹QuiQue› VRock, " can't judge a book by its cover...." I like that!!!(Y)
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10/11/2006 21:21:51 ‹marilyn› Blank books are for anything
10/11/2006 21:22:07 ‹VRock› BLANK books--potential, sketchbooks, diaries, school note books....your life fills them
10/11/2006 21:22:10 ‹marilyn› Sketch books?
10/11/2006 21:22:22 ‹Emfairmeadows› Yes.
10/11/2006 21:22:45 ‹marilyn› As V said, potential . . isn't that something that art metal is about?
10/11/2006 21:23:11 ‹QuiQue› Okay, so we ARE going to judge the books by its cover!?
10/11/2006 21:23:16 ‹marilyn› I didn't mean that ? after sketchbooks.
10/11/2006 21:23:22 ‹VRock› (I)to enter text, type in the long horiz box at bottom then clik ENTER on your compputer, ANON
10/11/2006 21:23:30 * Anonymous216 changes his/her nickname to industryelle
10/11/2006 21:23:43 ‹marilyn› A book is a book even without a cover.
10/11/2006 21:23:57 ‹Emfairmeadows› Hello Industrielle
10/11/2006 21:24:06 ‹marilyn› Hi industryelle
10/11/2006 21:24:13 ‹VRock› hello Industryelle!!:-)
10/11/2006 21:24:18 ‹marilyn› We had a talk last week didn't we?
10/11/2006 21:24:34 ‹industryelle› Hi all, I received a book recently that was just the word sigh repeated on every page. I love it.
10/11/2006 21:25:06 ‹marilyn› How portable does it need to be?
10/11/2006 21:25:16 ‹VRock› I like what QuiQue is getting at though, the exhibition needs to have a stated REASON for being
10/11/2006 21:25:16 ‹industryelle› We did talk last week Marilyn. Hi again!
10/11/2006 21:25:21 ‹Emfairmeadows› Not very I would think
10/11/2006 21:25:40 ‹marilyn› This might be important to the ferrous type people in artmetal
10/11/2006 21:25:49 ‹Emfairmeadows› portable.
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10/11/2006 21:26:08 ‹marilyn› Can it be a scroll?
10/11/2006 21:26:09 ‹VRock› OHH, |-) I love that idea, about the book with SIGH
10/11/2006 21:26:11 ‹Emfairmeadows› You have to be able to turn the pages to take a picture of it.
10/11/2006 21:26:28 * Anonymous185 changes his/her nickname to bpfink
10/11/2006 21:26:37 ‹VRock› If a scroll, the person takes several images
10/11/2006 21:26:45 ‹Emfairmeadows› If someone make a book that large, they probably already have a crane/hoist
10/11/2006 21:26:59 ‹Emfairmeadows› Hey Bruce!
10/11/2006 21:27:02 ‹marilyn› A lot of the handmade books I have seen were folded accordien style
10/11/2006 21:27:10 ‹VRock› It is neat to hear how many different idead that "BOOK" says to each of us.
10/11/2006 21:27:25 ‹QuiQue› Yes, the exhibition needs to have a stated REASON for being! That's why I have been questioning what a book is. The REASON will also be used to judge "the cover of the book"
10/11/2006 21:27:32 ‹VRock› hello BPF<:o)
10/11/2006 21:27:42 ‹bpfink› Hi guys
10/11/2006 21:28:00 ‹industryelle› The artist was exhibiting at a book arts show in Minneapolis. She said it was made while she was going through some serious hard relationshop business. No other word could quite encompass the experience
10/11/2006 21:28:01 ‹QuiQue› bpfink, we finally meet in the cafe!(h5)(h5)(h5)
10/11/2006 21:28:06 ‹marilyn› It could be a ibook (mac) :-D
10/11/2006 21:28:29 ‹VRock› Thank you QQ for prompting the obvious question. This is needed by us (sn)
10/11/2006 21:28:55 ‹Emfairmeadows› :)
10/11/2006 21:29:16 ‹VRock› METAL book..the actual object of the computer is the exhibit...piece
10/11/2006 21:29:21 ‹marilyn› For the Love of Books isn't enough of a reason?
10/11/2006 21:30:01 ‹bpfink› I'm readingh back to see what your all talking about...
10/11/2006 21:30:21 ‹VRock› for the artist, yes, for the show, QQ is helping me realize that the show needs a stated purpose
10/11/2006 21:31:01 ‹QuiQue› marilyn, Love of Books is ONE aspect. The book could express many things. Love, War, Peace, Personal Affection...
10/11/2006 21:31:03 ‹VRock› The BIG reason for the exhbition is to have an inaugural online show for artmetal
10/11/2006 21:31:21 ‹industryelle› There is something about the smell of old books It's not just about content, the tactile sensation, the quiet. Books are magic.
10/11/2006 21:31:28 ‹VRock› A theme helps us to get excited to actaully make something for the show
10/11/2006 21:31:35 ‹marilyn› Yes, a stated prupose can make people push against the boundries and that is good
10/11/2006 21:32:25 ‹QuiQue› I hope someone is taking notes.:-D
10/11/2006 21:32:35 ‹Emfairmeadows› yes
10/11/2006 21:33:11 ‹VRock› I think of a metal book being an artifact that conveys our feeling for the book...in a time when the book is less and less it seems with computers
10/11/2006 21:34:01 ‹marilyn› Books also convey continuity . . . history if you will.
10/11/2006 21:34:03 ‹QuiQue› Computers are books though! Interactive and continually being updated.
10/11/2006 21:34:04 ‹VRock› So irronic to have a show of metal books shown through 0's and 1's over a wire on a cpu
10/11/2006 21:34:51 ‹marilyn› Books are a means of time travel.
10/11/2006 21:35:02 ‹VRock› And as Marilyn asked: how big, how heavy? as big as our dreams....since we do not have to move it anywhere
10/11/2006 21:35:09 ‹QuiQue› I'm wondering if the book has to be functional, or can it be sculptural?
10/11/2006 21:35:57 ‹Emfairmeadows› There shouldn't be a limit to the physical size.
10/11/2006 21:36:02 ‹VRock› no need that it even open. As we know from used bookstores, some are nver opened by their originalowneres!
10/11/2006 21:36:37 ‹VRock› A limit perhaps to the size of the digital file sent to the show. But art itself, no
10/11/2006 21:36:43 ‹Emfairmeadows› I think we need to be able to see the pages
10/11/2006 21:36:49 ‹marilyn› Decorators have been known to buy them by the yard and the color.
10/11/2006 21:36:55 ‹VRock› from the edge...
10/11/2006 21:37:12 ‹Emfairmeadows› The pages don't have to move, really.
10/11/2006 21:37:30 ‹VRock› frozen in time
10/11/2006 21:37:47 ‹industryelle› I have a book that belonged to my father that never had the pages cut open. I don't think I ever could. THe mystery is so beautiful.
10/11/2006 21:37:49 ‹marilyn› Books can be a monumental
10/11/2006 21:38:06 ‹Emfairmeadows› I suppose if someone made a double bound book we'd never be able to see those pages. Unless they took pictures before it was welded shut...
10/11/2006 21:38:29 ‹VRock› SO how might we describe this theme to intice people to dream like this of books?
10/11/2006 21:38:39 ‹marilyn› Now, that, a welded shut book, would be a mystery indeed
10/11/2006 21:39:00 ‹VRock› ...unless they took pictures before it was welded shut... Cool! A time capsule
10/11/2006 21:39:10 ‹VRock› And then there are the scrolls in clay pots..
10/11/2006 21:40:19 ‹VRock› ELizbth described the other day how the book could be any material as long as incorporating some metal
10/11/2006 21:41:55 ‹industryelle› Where is this project described?
10/11/2006 21:42:11 ‹marilyn› Guys, we're not hearing much from you.
10/11/2006 21:42:20 ‹QuiQue› So VRock, have we come up with a "Statement of Purpose" for the book exhibition? Have we defined it yet?
10/11/2006 21:42:55 ‹QuiQue› industryelle, that is one of the things we are trying to come up with this evening here in the cafe.
10/11/2006 21:43:02 ‹VRock› no, we are still dreaming and explorng what a book can represent and ideas of making
10/11/2006 21:43:27 ‹industryelle› OOOH I love this part!
10/11/2006 21:43:46 ‹marilyn› Books transend time so Transendant Books?
10/11/2006 21:43:51 ‹Emfairmeadows› Artist's Book shall contain at least one piece of metal.
10/11/2006 21:43:58 ‹QuiQue› industryelle, what would you see the purpose for the book exhibition?
10/11/2006 21:44:02 ‹marilyn› That's a title though not a statement of purpose
10/11/2006 21:45:08 ‹VRock› METAL BOOKS: The articfact of the book: ENtries made of metal or contain metal as a portion of the sculpturalobject
10/11/2006 21:45:17 ‹industryelle› To explore the concept of encapsulating human imagination through the medium of metal.
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10/11/2006 21:45:22 ‹marilyn› Does there have to be a purpose for making anying?
10/11/2006 21:45:41 ‹marilyn› industryelle, that does sound good
10/11/2006 21:46:08 ‹QuiQue› I like the title " can't judge a book by its cover...."
10/11/2006 21:46:27 ‹VRock› :$good point, M, though tonight I wish to define it somehow...so that we have a statement of purpose fo rthe exhibiton
10/11/2006 21:47:15 ‹VRock› I like industryelle's idea/explore concept of...
10/11/2006 21:47:27 ‹marilyn› :-):-)I'm smiling. I happened to remember the bit from the seventies about the medium is the message and for this, the message is metal.
10/11/2006 21:47:37 ‹QuiQue› industryelle, I like "To explore the concept of encapsulating human imagination through the medium of metal." However, there has been some talk as to not limit it to any medium as long as it has a "bit" of metal.
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10/11/2006 21:47:48 ‹marilyn› BF who wrote that book anyway. I'd be surprised if you had not read it.
10/11/2006 21:48:32 ‹marilyn› The medium is the message, the message is the medium.
10/11/2006 21:48:40 ‹VRock› (Can't) Judge a book by its cover: METAL BOOKS: AN exhbition of...
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10/11/2006 21:49:30 ‹QuiQue› VRock, you're getting there with the title!
10/11/2006 21:49:40 ‹VRock› through the medium of metal and other materials..
10/11/2006 21:49:43 ‹marilyn› Hi anononymous 21
10/11/2006 21:50:17 ‹industryelle› The figurative expression of a book in the dictionary is an imaginary list or record. hmmm.
10/11/2006 21:50:18 ‹bpfink› Marshall McCluhan
10/11/2006 21:50:42 ‹marilyn› You got it bp,
10/11/2006 21:50:47 ‹Emfairmeadows› (Can't) Judge a book by its cover: METAL BOOKS: AN exhbition of the book as artifact.
10/11/2006 21:51:12 ‹QuiQue› Emfairmeadows, Yea!(h5)(h5)(h5)
10/11/2006 21:51:42 ‹marilyn› Metal as Message
10/11/2006 21:51:45 ‹bpfink› And it includes books, but works faster with electomanetic impulses...
10/11/2006 21:52:15 ‹QuiQue› "(Can't) Judge a book by its cover: METAL BOOKS: AN exhbition of the book as artifact." Has my vote.(Y)
10/11/2006 21:52:21 ‹VRock› metal seems to be artifact material
10/11/2006 21:52:32 ‹Emfairmeadows› Purpose:To explore the concept of encapsulating human imagination through the message of metal.
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10/11/2006 21:53:02 ‹marilyn› There, that last one is it.
10/11/2006 21:53:45 ‹VRock› mine too. i like that title muchly,liz!
10/11/2006 21:54:02 ‹Emfairmeadows› Next we'd have to come up with the specifics;)
10/11/2006 21:54:02 ‹VRock› through message of metal / medium of metal?
10/11/2006 21:54:06 ‹marilyn› Hi 216
10/11/2006 21:54:13 ‹bpfink› anything that lasts a long time can be an artifact material and top of the list is even clay, petrified soil and minerals on rock walls.
10/11/2006 21:54:22 ‹Anonymous216› hola this is rocio
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10/11/2006 21:54:26 ‹industryelle› That's a book, a physical manifestation of imagination and metal as the medium. That is beautiful Emfairmeadows
10/11/2006 21:54:42 ‹Emfairmeadows› Hola Rocio!
10/11/2006 21:54:46 ‹Anonymous403› Hi everybody...
10/11/2006 21:54:49 ‹VRock› and I agree that pictographs and sand paintings are drawings
10/11/2006 21:54:50 ‹bpfink› ferrous is more fleeting and paper is downright wispy
10/11/2006 21:55:13 ‹marilyn› rocio...great to talk with you(h5)(h5)
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10/11/2006 21:55:28 ‹Emfairmeadows› Hello Dick
10/11/2006 21:55:32 ‹VRock› Hey Rocio! We are playing with the idea of onlne exhbition at artmetal with theme of books
10/11/2006 21:55:33 ‹QuiQue› Anonymous216, click on your name below the entry are to change it to Rocio
10/11/2006 21:55:34 * bpfink changes his/her nickname to Anonymous185
10/11/2006 21:55:35 ‹marilyn› and hi to dick c
10/11/2006 21:55:50 ‹marilyn› We've got a crowd
10/11/2006 21:56:07 ‹VRock› (Y)hi dick C
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10/11/2006 21:56:35 ‹marilyn› hi 185
10/11/2006 21:56:36 * Anonymous185 changes his/her nickname to bpfink
10/11/2006 21:56:52 ‹Emfairmeadows› So Bruce are you saying we would be better off putting a bunch of creatures together burying them in the sand and waiting some million years until they turn into limestone?
10/11/2006 21:57:03 ‹industryelle› I recently learned the history of intaglio print making. Pages of records of imagined patterns for armour. Metal to paper. Maybe one of the first processes to bridge the divide between metal and the book.
10/11/2006 21:57:11 ‹marilyn› Seems we lost rocio
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10/11/2006 21:58:13 ‹bpfink› Nah, the language would be too foreign by then
10/11/2006 21:58:16 ‹VRock› So how do you think we ought to advertise this? A call for entries to artmetal members?
10/11/2006 21:58:27 ‹Emfairmeadows› I love intaglio.
10/11/2006 21:58:30 ‹Anonymous216› Valerie, i'll be back in a couple of minutes, i'm in the middle of an interview by phone brb
10/11/2006 21:58:41 ‹marilyn› VRock, that sound good
10/11/2006 21:58:55 ‹VRock› c' mon back when time:-)
10/11/2006 21:59:07 ‹Emfairmeadows› Gene is that you?
10/11/2006 21:59:18 ‹VRock› hey smif
10/11/2006 22:00:07 ‹smif› so, are we gonna engrave stuff next summer? Elizabeth?
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10/11/2006 22:00:24 ‹Emfairmeadows› Yes VRock, we should send out a Call for Entries to artmetal members.
10/11/2006 22:00:36 ‹VRock› open to artmetal members...and truly anyone who wishes can easily beceom one
10/11/2006 22:00:47 ‹VRock› don't know why system says I am out:^)
10/11/2006 22:00:49 ‹Emfairmeadows› Absolutely, we should do some engraving before we form it.
10/11/2006 22:00:52 ‹marilyn› We gotta have a printing press to print with if we engrave don't we?
10/11/2006 22:01:06 ‹marilyn› I don't think I will engrave a book
10/11/2006 22:01:08 ‹Emfairmeadows› Not necessarily
10/11/2006 22:01:22 ‹bpfink› it is just that if it looks like a book, reads like a book, feels like a book and swims like a book it may still be other than a book. No limis there.
10/11/2006 22:01:26 * Anonymous216 changes his/her nickname to rocio
10/11/2006 22:01:27 ‹Emfairmeadows› The plates would be the pages
10/11/2006 22:01:37 ‹smif› I'm pretty good at the beat the h out of it part.
10/11/2006 22:02:23 ‹VRock› I like what bpf said "looks like, reads like, swims lke, but might not be...." cool
10/11/2006 22:02:29 ‹marilyn› Gene, what about a nice pig book?;)
10/11/2006 22:02:30 ‹Emfairmeadows› We just need resist, engraving tools and some scary chemicals.
10/11/2006 22:02:31 ‹smif› rocita, bueanas noches
10/11/2006 22:02:38 ‹QuiQue› bpfink, You want to i