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Nautilus Shell Wall Sconces
Stephen Fitz-Gerald -
Friday, May 7, 2010 - 12:09pm
sculptural lighting These are wall sconces destined to have LOW VOLTAGE UPLIGHTING. They are designed to be installed on either side and illuminate a painting for my client.They are fabricated from 1/8th inch stainless steel with a backing plate of 16 gauge. Width is 14inches.I now hand off the sconces to another tech who will install the lights and wiring.
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Stephen Fitz-Gerald -
Saturday, May 8, 2010 - 3:06am
Stephen Fitz-Gerald ![]() In my time as a remodeler I
bigfootnampa -
Saturday, May 8, 2010 - 11:27am
In my time as a remodeler I installed a great many low voltage lights (indoors). They solve quite a few design problems... fit into smaller spaces/areas, are much safer, great for task lighting, generally produce much less heat, less glare, far easier to hide the small wires (anyway high voltage would require conduit which is huge or must be run inside walls). We often ran the low voltage feed wires in caulked corners or under small moldings. The fixtures can be very small and much more designer friendly. The lighting can be much more even by spreading the wattage over numerous small fixtures instead of a few larger ones. We commonly used them for display lights and undercounter lighting. They also excel when designing dramatic uplighting or downlighting (showing off the expensive moldings, paintings, sculptures, etcetera). ![]() LEDs
Daedalus -
Saturday, May 8, 2010 - 2:14pm
Does anyone use LEDs? In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. ![]() LEDs
visitor -
Sunday, May 9, 2010 - 5:11pm
Light Emitting Diodes are the most efficient, but also have the highest inital cost. They are also a very green product. The newest ones sold in strips are much brighter, and will last about five years. Diodes operate on DC voltage and positive and negitive wires can not be reversed. ![]() I'm a big fan of LEDs but
Rich Waugh -
Sunday, May 9, 2010 - 11:55pm
I'm a big fan of LEDs but the problem I run into with them is not the LEDs themselves, but the interior designers - they insist on incandescent lamps because they want the "warm" color spectrum. This is non-fact based, since LEDs are available in a wide variety of color temperatures and colors and you can mix them to get absolutely any color light you might want, but I have a hard time convincing interior designers of this. LEDs have such a long service life and low operating temperature as well as the low current draw that they are far and away the greenest light source available to us presently. Compact fluorescents are a distant second, but again, the interior designers think they're all "cold" light. Again, they're dead wrong. In fact, most CFLs these days are almost too "warm" a light. I'd prefer something closer to a daylight spectrum myself, but I've only found a very few that offer anything approximating that. CFLs don't light to kindle in low ambient temperatures, either. That can be a problem on exterior lighting. LED's don't care about that, fortunately. Rich ![]() LED's run at a
gwynlaredogranger -
Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 10:24pm
LED's run at a mathematically different spectrum from incandescent light, this is a fact. you are experiencing an observer metameric failure. ![]() Incandescent lamps
Rich Waugh -
Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 10:46pm
Incandescent lamps generally, though by no means always, run at a temperature around 3800K. LEDs are available in a wide array of color temperatures , many of them in the range between 3500K and 4000K, so I can't agree that they are at a "mathematically different spectrum" than incandescent lamps. Just as incandescent lamps can have their color temperatures changed by input voltage or by combining lamps of differing color temps, LEDs can also be intermixed to obtain specific combined-output color temperatures. They can also, to some degree, have their color temperature shifted by adjusting input voltage. An observer metameric failure is the difference in color perception, not in the color temperature of the light source, as I understand it. This is due to the variations in how individuals' optic receptors/nerves respond to colors rather than to source light temperature variations, and can even vary depending on how an individual looks at an object, i.e.directly, from an angle, etc. The issue I was addressing was more one of overcoming ingrained shibboleths than achieving a technological solution. The technology is already there but getting beyond peoples' superstitions and biases is another thing altogether. In a few short years legislation will, however, make this a moot point as the production and use of incandescent lamps are ultimately outlawed in the interests of conserving energy. The reactionaries in the interior design field may howl all they like but they'll be forced to adopt more modern technologies. Or stick with burning oil lamps, maybe...(grin) Rich ![]() "color temperature of the
gwynlaredogranger -
Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 10:55pm
"color temperature of the light source" you need to differentiate between your opinion about the color of the light and the scientific quantity of light, these are, as you already know, objective to an extent , so you must clarify what you mean in numbers, not adjectives! ![]() I've been an engineer most
don johnson -
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 9:25am
I've been an engineer most of my life, and LED's have always been interesting in how they are used. ![]() Color temperature of the
Rich Waugh -
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 11:58am
Color temperature of the light source, expressed in terms of degrees Kelvin is not what I would call an opinion - it is a recognized way of measuring light color, used throughout the lighting, printing, photographic, painting and other industries. It is a quantifiable scientific expression of light color in standard metrics. My point was precisely that the issue is one of perceptions, not of scientific minutia. Designers care no more for candela than for candidia - they just want that "nice warm rosy glow that suffuses a room with warmth and personality." When you begin to discuss lighting with them in terms of lumens, color temperature in degrees Kelvin and incident versus reflected light they promptly develop that "deer in the headlights" expression and communication stops. Been there, done that and got the t-shirt. After around six years of effort I have one (1) designer client that is finally beginning to recognize that there may be viable alternatives to incandescent lamps. I find this a bit frustrating as I'm trying to design lighting that will have a service life commensurate with the high cost of custom forged work. I don't see much joy in either designing something for which there will be no lamp available in five years or which the designer will not forward to the client because it utilizes technology they refuse to understand or accept. As avant garde as designers promote themselves to be, many become card-carrying Luddites when you try to discuss technology with them. It is a conundrum. Rich ![]() i figured out long ago that
gwynlaredogranger -
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 10:24pm
i figured out long ago that designers are like talentless artists.they have the trappings of an artist, but not the spirit. i had an older friend of mine tell me once"the artist sometimes needs a sculptor to be an artist, but the sculptor never needs an artist to be an artist". |
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I am just wondering why low
I am just wondering why low voltage is specified? That is usually needed for outside applications.
Don