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Does anyone out there know about how to get a pewter or brushed nickel look finish on stainless steel pipe. We have been asked by a customer if we could put in a handrail and she would like it to have a pewter or brushed nickel type look. This would be done on a 1 1/2" stainless steel pipe. This is definitely not in our area of expertise and we welcome any help.Embarassed

Sandra


Rick Crawford's picture

One possible solution

One possible solution would be to have the piece nickel plated and then brush it. I work in the food industry and we have many things nickel plated, although it is not cheap, it is also not terrible. (Although that could be defined differently for different jobs.)

Rick Crawford at Smoky Forge


Rich Waugh's picture

Sandra, You can get a nice

Sandra,

You can get a nice brushed finish on stainless by using Scotchbrite Surface Conditioning Wheels made by 3M. They're available in differeing grades from MSC Industrial Supply and other places. You'll have to experiment to see which grade is right for your particular application.

If the customer really wants the "color" of nickel or pewter, then you have a tougher problem. Nickel can be plated over stainless, after first plating with copper, but it isn't cheap and you'll need to do the brushed finish first, then plate, the lightly brush finish it again after the plating. You don't want to buff all the plating away with the Scotchbrite wheel, so you need to do most of the work before the plating.

The pewter color is going to be the toughest to get. You might be able to get it by first doing the brushed finish on the stainless then etching the surface with an oxalic acid solution. That should give you that dull grey color, I think.

The bottom line is, you need to do some experimenting.


Ries's picture

You could consider various

You could consider various other types of finishes- I needle scale a lot of stainless, with an air powered needle scaler, which makes for a nice, shiny but not mirrored, textured finish.
Or, you could sandblast it, for a dull gray finish, or glass bead it, for a finish that is still matte, but with again not to silvery.

Or wire brush it.

Or, as Rich suggested, use a 3M red fuzzy pad, either in a disc grinder, or you can get 3M fuzzy belts for belt sanders.

All of these finishes can also be combined with electropolishing, which is a commercial electric/acid finishing process. It creates quite an interesting finish to sandblast then electropolish, for example.

But Stainless will always be stainless. Not nickel. And, since real nickel costs about 5 times what stainless does, I would stick with the stainless.


eligius1427's picture

Hi Ries, many members on

Hi Ries,
many members on this site have commented on your experience with finishing stainless steel and electropolishing in particular. I am considering using stainless for an outdoor project and will experiment with some of the techniques mentioned above. Have you had any experience with vandalism on any of your work, particularly "tagging" with spraypaint or paint pens? Does one finish clean up better or worse than another? This sort of vandalism has been a problem around here and clean up/repair is a concern of the client.

I'm also interested in learning more about electropolishing. Can you explain a little how it works or point me towards a website that might explain it? From my scant understanding, it will put a satin "polish" on whatever finish you have put on the stainless steel. If I want it smooth and clean or a grain on it, that finish has to be there before electropolishing, correct?

Any info would be greatly apreciated.

Thanks

Jake


Ries's picture

This is a big subject- but

This is a big subject- but basically, electropolishing can be thought of as like plating, only in reverse.
A power supply is hooked up, backwards from what you would use for plating, and the flow of electricity strips away the top layer of the stainless, rather than adding a layer as in plating.

Small units are made to clean up welds in stainless steel, like the one from Walter-
http://www.jwalterinc.com/walter_us/servlet/NewProdDetail?item=54D213

Walter also makes a variety of citric and other acid products that clean stainless without electricity.

Commercially, electropolishing is done in tanks with dilute phosphoric acid, and large power supplies.
I send mine out to a commercial polisher that has a 4 foot by 4 foot by 8 foot tank, and a 1000 amp power supply. It makes short work of mill scale, even on heavily forged pieces.

Electropolishing, like plating, only takes what you start with and makes it look shiny- so whatever finish you start with, be it mirror polish or rough hammer texture, will still be that finish, just shinier.

It makes graffiti cleanup very easy- since there is no finish whatsoever on the stainless, virtually any cleaner can be used, as long as its nonabrasive. Simple Green will take off most graffiti from pens, and sometimes even spray paint.
I think electropolished stainless is one of the best finishes in a high vandalism environment.

I find that polishing costs me about what powdercoating would- but it will never peel, fade, or need repainting.

This is dependant, of course, on having a commercial polisher available, and they are rare. Many plating companies do small scale polishing, and they usually know who does it if they dont, so I would start to look by calling your local plater.

These guys are big, and expensive-
http://www.electromatic.com/


visitor's picture

pewter look

you might try heating the stainless until it blackens then bring the finish up from there.sanding, scotchbrite etc until it meets the look you want.

try it on a small piece first...oh, watch out for the gasses when heating the stainless


don thibodeaux's picture

finish

Sandra,

You can use an orbatal sander; however, with stainless and depending on the size, it will take alot of work.

Don T.


Sandra Moses's picture

Stainless handrail

Thank you all, for your input. Unfortunately we haven't had any time to put any of them into use yet but we hopefully will in the near future. This is a wonderful site.

Sandra Moses Owner, Designer Ablaze MetalArt & Design 250-338-2339 www.AblazeMetalArt.com info@AblazeMetalArt.com