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Pipe bender suggestions
monkeyknifefight -
Monday, November 12, 2007 - 9:21pm
I'm looking for a decent versatile and relatively affordable pipe/rod bender. Any suggestions? This compact one by Shopoutfitters looks promisisng- http://www.shopoutfitters.com/Shop_Outfitters_File/CompactBender2.html Hossfeld
eligius1427 -
Monday, November 12, 2007 - 11:10pm
Rich is right, the hossfeld is worth the extra cost. It is extremely versatile and tough. It allows you to bend and form so many more profiles and sizes than the shop outfitters bender and you can invest in the bender a little at a time. This allows you to tailor the Hossfeld to your specialties and tweak the bender as new jobs come in. There are so many dies and attachments and it is fairly easy to make your own dies, especially if you end up getting the cnc plasma cutter. Jake » reply I've got a Hossfeld, there
Canaday Designs -
Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 1:46am
I've got a Hossfeld, there is NO other choice. It's just one of those "why reinvent the wheel" kind of tools, it works and it works well. You can get or make any die you could possibly need, I've got a little wall full of them. » reply American Benders
monkeyknifefight -
Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 2:10am
I've heard/read that American Benders are a good alternative to a Hossfeld, and can even use the same dies. I'm not against getting the best but my new found love of metal is quickly adding up (MIG, Plasma, O/A, vise, anvil, etc, etc) and at this point since it's only a "hobby"... I'm afraid of my wife's "support" running out once she sees the CC bill. :) » reply I bought (several years ago)
Rick Crawford -
Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 7:17am
I bought (several years ago) a Harbor Freight bender similar to a Hossfeld. For a hobbyist, it is OK, depending of course on the scale of work you're doing. Almost ALL of my work is under 1" stock. I would rather have the Hossfeld, but could not find one for cheap as I could afford. The Harbor Freight is about the same quality as the one you are looking at, but MUCH less money. If you can afford the Hossfeld, good, but otherwise, maybe cheaper is better for a start. When you find out how much you use it, then may be time to upgrade. Rick Crawford at Smoky Forge » reply Hossfeld Only!
SteelyJan -
Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 7:47am
I love my Hossfeld, and I'm probably one of those people who don't even use it to it's fullest capacity . Keep your eyes out for metal shops that are going out of business, check out auctions in your local papers. At one auction we bought a cabinet that was full of dies (most of which I still haven't used) I didn't have the bender at that time. Then a local shop was closing and they had a Hossfeld in the back area. My husband casually asked if they wanted to sell the bender,and how much. The guy said " I don'tknow give me two hundred dollars for it!!!!!" » reply Hi I also am looking for an
mele miller -
Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 7:55am
Hi » reply Mele, No, not the orange
Rich Waugh -
Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 9:01am
Mele, No, not the orange hydraulic one. That is a poor piece of equipment designed for bending muffler tubing, andit will barely do that. The one Rick was talking about is a sort of knockoff of a Hossfeld, scaled down and cheapened. It will do small stuff up to maybe 3/16"x1-1/2" or so. It comes with a handful of dies for various bends, but you would have to make your own dies for unusual profiles or bends. Hossfeld dies will not fit the HF bender. Look for Harbor Freight part number 31980-1VGA online. About a hundred bucks, and just about worth it. One note about Hossfeld-type benders: They take a fair amount of room around them to swing the stock you're bending, and they MUST be anchored to the floor securely. » reply Rich, Thanks a bunch, I
mele miller -
Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 1:24pm
Rich, » reply not sure how I feel about
Canaday Designs -
Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 2:50pm
not sure how I feel about this but it's on the net and now I'm contributing, www.chopperhandbook.com/neatstuff/downloads.htm and I'd also suggest getting a manual and die list www.hossfeldbender.com/index.php Matt » reply Matt, Yeah, that will sure
Rich Waugh -
Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 7:33pm
Matt, Yeah, that will sure enough allow you make a Hossfeld clone, alright. The patent on the Hossfeld has long since expired, so no problem with making a copy, I don't think, even if you sell it. However, if your shop time is worth much, I'd think you'd be as well off to simply buy one from the folks who invented it and still sell it and support it. From all accounts, they're really great people to deal with. Hossfeld benders look deceptively simple, but the measurements and relationships are pretty critical if it's going to work correctly, and that takes time and good equipment. Then there's the manufacture and heat treating of the dies to consider, too. All in all, I think they are a bargain at under a grand. That same site did put me onto a cute little freeware program (Tubemiter) for plotting cutting templates for joining tubing at any angle, which is really neat. Thanks for the tip! Rich » reply gotta agree I made my first
Canaday Designs -
Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 9:40pm
gotta agree I made my first bender (my own simple design), it now sits in back developing a good patina. theres a reason why hossfeld is still in business. » reply |
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For the money that one
For the money that one costs, I'd stay away from it. It isn't nearly as robust a michine as the Hossfeld it is a clone of, and it costs nearly as much. People I know who have used both, or seen both, say the Hossfeld is the real thing and the Shopoutfitters is a pale shadow. You might ask Ries Niemi. He swears by the Hossfeld, as do several other friends who have them.
The Hossfeld has a range of available dies for bending almost anything. None of the competition can make that claim. Yes, the Hossfeld is more expensive, but the support is terrific and the product is high quality. You can often find them used at bargain prices in many places. A number of people buy them and never take the tim eto learn to use them fully. Those that do, love them; those that don't, sell them.
Hopefully, Ries will chime in on this one.