Cool, I think??

So I delivered the dogwood Sunday night and I think she liked it. One of the other people there wants to order one so we will see if that happans. I did, however, get my first commission. The woman that I made the dogwood for wants 3 gates. Two that are 3'x 4' and one that is 3' x 7'. Her only requests where that they were dog safe and had a wild cherry design. So I pretty much have free rein which is good since this is my first "big" selling project. It's kind of scary, is that normal? What if I have bitten off more than I can chew, what if she doesn't like it? I know I can turn to you guys for questions if I need to! Anyway, wish me luck!!!
Mele


Gerald Boggs's picture

Excellent and good luck.

Excellent and good luck. Yes, it's normal. If you haven't ever build a gate, you might want to get a copy of the NOMMA DVD, making the garden gate. It's a bit dry, but provides a solid baseline to gate making. I've a copy you can borrow.

Gerald Boggs


mele miller's picture

Thanks, is that DVD

Thanks, is that DVD something I can get online?
Mele

Wow you can get it online...65.00. That will cut way into my profits. I may want to take you up on your offer, I'll pay all the shipping.
Mele


kevincaron's picture

Congrats on your first comm.

Congrats on your first comm. You do great work! I am sure these gates will be even gater.. eh greater! Can't wait for some photos......


mele miller's picture

I have pictures in my head,

I have pictures in my head, I just need to get them to the outside.
Mele


Paula's picture

a little fear is good. that

a little fear is good. that means you'll go out of your way to do a great job.....as far as biting off more than you can chew?......look at it this way....you are expanding your horizons
Paula
Guthrie, MN


warren's picture

Fear

Mele,
Congrats on scoring the commission. Yah fear is all part of the game. Laying awake at night figuring out how am I going to make this and that and what happens if this does not work and what happens if if if if.

Best thing is get yourself a nice little contract for the commission and get enough money up front so if the little tools you need do not make you hesitate.
Be open to the client and review your work with her as you go along.
You will do fine.

www Metalrecipes -- heat and beat to the desired shape, repeat as necessary.
warren


mele miller's picture

Thanks Warren, I knew you

Thanks Warren, I knew you guy would make me feel better. Your right, I dreamed about gates ALL night last night.
Mele


Gerald Boggs's picture

Yep, all their DVD's a bit

Yep, all their DVD's a bit pricey, but worth it. There's nothing fancy about them, just simple, clean methods. Along with the Garden gates, I have curved railing and straight railing.
If you decide to borrow instead of buy, just send me somewhere to mail. I live two hundred yards from my post office. Here's my web site, my e-mail is in there somewhere. www.wayfarerforge.com
Gerald Boggs


mele miller's picture

Thanks I will go to your web

Thanks I will go to your web site.


Chuck Girard's picture

Right On

Hi Mele,
Congrat's on your Comm.
This is no fluke I find your work exceptional.
I too am just begining the journey, I'm very happy for ya!
I'll wish it but you don't need Luck.
Congrat's again!

Chuck


NELSON's picture

Hi Mele, All that

Hi Mele,
All that nervousness is quite normal, but you`re lucky to have all these people on this site many of whom will help make things easier for you. First relax, everything is gonna be fine. I`m going to give you some tips (two cent help) that together with the other guy`s, should amount to some money. If you can take a pic of the places where the gates will be installed,that would help us help you. Anyway, if the place where a gate will be installed is already defined by brick, stone, cement, steel fence or what have you, then obviously you don`t have much room for mistakes. Namely, the gate cannot be larger nor smaller than the whole is supposed to fit, and to fit well.Well, it could be smaller and supplement with steel plates on the hinge side, but that`s not a desireable situation asthetically speaking. First, you should define how many hinges to use and how to attach them to the existing foundation. 2-3 hinges would do the job Mele. All depends on weight of gate and hinges size.The middle hinge,if you`re using 3, should be placed not at the dead center between top and bottom, but rather a few inches closer to top one for better work distribution lets say. One important detail is how the hinges will attach to steel fence, cement, brick or whatever they got already built. If you`ve got steel then you coul easily weld the hinges on, at the end when your done with your gate. If you have brick, or cement, or stone, then you may want to attach a piece of steel plate with a piece or rebar to act as a hook into the cement you`ll put in the previouly dug hole, at distances you plan to place hinges.Remember this simple math though, hinges thickness (when they^re closed) + rectangle horizontal measure (gate frame) + some clearance = total horizontal length where the gate will fit into. The thicknes of the round (or square) stock to make the gate frame will depend on design,budget, and gate weight. A 3/4" would give you a better margin in case you oveheat a bit while welding, and the frame won`t go out of shape. Got to take in consideration the locking side, that`s the opposite to hinges, where you may need either a hole on cement or brick, etc. or a plate that has a hole in it. That plate would have to go into the cement foundation if that`s the case, at the locking device height. So take in consideration anything you ad on either side for that simple math, and always consider a few milimeters of slack. Mele the overall idea is to make a rectangular shaped gat-in your case,that you`ll be filling in with twigs, leaves, an any elements in your design. Try welding at various points, or cool off welds, the idea is not to concentrate heat, or the frame may warp out of shape. If you give the guys here some info as to your design, etc, they may tell what thickness material could ne better. Draw your design withing that 3`x 4` rectangular gate size (the actual gate would be smaller...), define where the hinges could go on that design, then the first thing would be to make and install your hinge plates on the cement, brick, and the lock plate on opposite side depending on device you put, and after that you have the actual measure for making your gate frame. Remember the hinge plates should be as vertical as possible, and the frame could even have round corners but always with square angle inside. Check out a hand drawing I`ll post to ilustrate a bit. Hope this serves some help Mele, I`m not to good explaining... Nelson.


SteelyJan's picture

Your ready!!!!

Hi Melee,

I'm so happy for you and this is how it happens.....
this will be the first one under your belt....Nelson explained a lot.
I really need to tell you about my first big gate commission.
It was a huge one...I think it's posted on here somewhere.
"Sure I can do!" Yikes.... then I had to do it. please email me at bfdstudios@ earthlink.net because I want to call you and tell you about it. This is something you definitely can handle.
Any help I can give you , I'm here.... I am truly excited for you and would like to help you in any way I can. SteelyJan


mele miller's picture

That is a bunch of really

That is a bunch of really good information, thanks. Several things I need to consider. The existing fence is wood so I need to make the gate as light as possible. One of things I have been dreaming is that the gate doesn't fit. I am waiting for the DVD's from Gerald and pricing supplies. I'm sure I will questions to come so thanks again......
Mele