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Rust Dyeing
meganpegan81 -
Thursday, April 8, 2010 - 8:02am
rust Hi All Im wondering if anyone could help me about dyeing fabric with rust? Im particulary interested in quickening the rusting process and ways of creating diffrent colours of rust. Im also interested in the corrosion of copper and again quickening the process.Im also interested in the conditions of the rusting material eg. river bed, buried underground. If anyone could help it would be very much appreciated as its for a school project. This site is AMAZING!There are some very tallented members. thanks ![]() Welcome to ArtMetal,
Rich Waugh -
Thursday, April 8, 2010 - 9:50am
Welcome to ArtMetal, Megan! Rust will certainly stain fabric rather permanently, as those if us who live in the tropics and work with steel know all too well. Different "rusts" will stain differently - there are different compounds of iron oxide that have different colors. Fe2O3 is the basic reddish-orange rust we're all familiar with, known as hematite. Then there is the Fe3O4 which is magnetite, the magnetic black oxide of iron. There are about a dozen other oxides of iron, too. Then there are the other iron compounds that occur when iron is buried or submerged, such as iron phosphate, iron sulfate, etc. These also can be used for dyeing, I'm sure. Several of the non-ferrous metals have oxides or other compounds that are colorful and could be used for dyeing, too. To quickly rust steel you can spray it with household bleach or hydrogen peroxide. Also salt water. To corrode copper alloys you can use ammonia, vinegar and salt to get a green patina. Urine works, but is slower. There are a couple of good books written on patinas that should have the information you need. If you search the archives here for patinas you should find references to them. To use these compounds for dyeing will require some specialized knowledge of the proper preparations, mordants, etc. There are textbooks on natural dyeing that can probably be found by searching on Abe Books, Bookfinder or the like. You've chosen to explore an area that is very broad and that has a lot of history, so there should be a lot of information out there. You just have to hunt it down and assimilate it. Good luck! Rich ![]() Thank you very much for your
visitor -
Friday, April 9, 2010 - 6:35am
Thank you very much for your help ,you have helped me out hugely. I have experimented a little already and I now know why i have diffrent colours of rust thanks to your help. I have been researching a little online but so far haven't really came up with much. If you happen to know of any artists, sculptures or designers, who have been in the press, who use rust or rusted items in their work that would be of great help too. The course i am studying is an Art Foundation course, as well as all the practical work we do we also have to write a very long essay :( !!!!!! Thanks again for your help Rich, Megs ![]() Try This...
visitor -
Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 2:32pm
Soak fabric in vinegar... place in contact with your metal in plastic bag, leaving bag open as it needs oxygen, place in sunlight for 24 hours; re-mist with vinegar spray if it starts to dry out. This is the process in brief, courtesy of artist Olivia Thomas, oliverose.com. She has a full article in Stampington's periodical, Art Quilting Studio, Winter 2010 issue, about this process. She can be reached via e-mail, pezman@concentric.net, if you want to thank her directly. ![]() Hi Megan, I use rust in alot
DesignerMetal -
Friday, April 16, 2010 - 11:11pm
Hi Megan, I use rust in alot of my art. The quickest way I have found to rust steel is to mist the steel with a mixture of hydrogen peroxide, vinegar, and salt. It will start to rust almost instantly. Give it about 10 min and you should be able to just lay your fabric on the metal and soak it right up. I hope this Helps. If u Have any questions please let me know! David Hebert |
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Hi Megan I dont think rust
Hi Megan
I dont think rust is soluble in water so it will not work like a typical dye. You would need to find a way of attaching the rust particles (iron oxide) to the fabric, and that would depend on the type of fabric.
You could try weaving some thin steel thread or wire into the fabric which would naturally rust overtime releasing a continuous supply of rust to the material, and depending on the way they are woven in could produce some interesting patterns. However, depending on the exposure to oxygen and water the iron threads will eventually break down.
M
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