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What One Tool... suggestions?
lorianne -
Monday, May 23, 2011 - 2:39pm
copper | copper tools | jewelry | whimsy So far, I have been making jewelry for fun and as a learning experience. Most of these were done with pretty crude tools; hammers (generic tools i already had like a ball peen hammer and some tin snips) and a small butane pencil torch... But it seems like i got ahead of myself. I mean i was so anxious for more/bigger/better fire that i didnt invest my new-found cash in good hand tools. Now i want to move on to new experiments, like maybe some small sculptural stuff and i have no clue what types of tools would be good to start out with. i liked the more primitive look to my jewelry, but would like a more refined look and i suspect better tools would accomplish that for any future work. Since this is really still just a hobby, i have to add tools over time, so... what one tool cant you live without? ![]() Thanks Rich - I do have a
lorianne -
Monday, May 23, 2011 - 9:46pm
Thanks Rich - I do have a small set of needle files and do see the necessity of the bench pin and saw... those tin snips will only do so much. ...on & on & on indeed. that seems to be my problem, i want every cool tool i see! Embrace Simplicity ![]() Sadly, the desire to possess
Rich Waugh -
Monday, May 23, 2011 - 11:44pm
Sadly, the desire to possess tools is an affliction I've suffered from since I was a child. I confess - I am a tool junkie. According to my wife I own every tool known to man, but that is a gross exaggeration. I will cop to having some 1800 square feet of shop space that is awfully crowded, but I'm sure there are some tools I don't yet own. (grin) My problem is that if I ever want to move back to the States it will take two 40' ocean freight containers to move me due to the weight of my tools. It's astonishing how fast the weight accumulates when you're dealing with tools for blacksmithing, silversmithing, sheet metal work, construction, machine work, mechanics and so on, to say nothing of the tractors and implements, boat, etc. The very thought of moving makes me cringe! My wife has nightmares about the estate sale, too. I probably should stop buying tools, and I keep telling myself that, but then I just bought a rolling mill the other day, simply because I've wanted one ever since I was a silversmithing student in college. That was forty (!) years ago so I think I've been really very patient about that one. On the whole, I think crack *might* be a cheaper addiction... ![]() yeah, but crack is not the
lorianne -
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 - 12:25am
yeah, but crack is not the sort of addiction you can brag about & share with your pals in order to make them jealous. Embrace Simplicity ![]() Hey Lorianne, you may want
Sam Alcantara -
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 - 10:19am
Hey Lorianne, you may want to contact •Jamie Santellano on here. She is a jewlery person and could probably give you all sorts of insight! ![]() sam - thanks for the
lorianne -
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 - 6:12pm
sam - thanks for the suggestion! i have seen her work here and its something to be admired and aspired to! Embrace Simplicity ![]() lorianne's posy
visitor -
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 - 3:22pm
So what is your arts background? You are not a "newbie"-thats pretty apparent! I suspect you know more than you let on. ![]() hmmmm... not sure if thats
visitor -
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 - 6:01pm
hmmmm... not sure if thats an insult or a compliment. my arts background is nothing more than possibly genetics, my mother was very good at drawing and my younger brother is a commercial art director. the last art class i took was in high school, and that was over 25 years ago. professionally, i spent most of my adult life working in the field of psychology, now i am a writer. what i do know has come strictly from reading, watching youtube videos and learning by doing. i did exactly as i said - took some tools we had and a torch and just started 'playing' with my ideas. the pictures above are the results. if i had more knowledge or experience or education than that, i would be proud of that fact and certainly claim it. ![]() oops! what i obviously
lorianne -
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 - 6:03pm
oops! what i obviously didn't learn was to log in before i comment... so my response should show up here as soon as it is moderated. sorry about that. Embrace Simplicity ![]() What tools????????
visitor -
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 - 4:13pm
On the "sculptural stuff" are you thinking fabrication or carving/casting? If the latter, the Dremel and a few burrs, drills, some sanding medium and .. most important, the right kind of wax and you can get VERY detailed carvings for casting The wax would be one of the very hard carving waxes (my wife used Filo wax, it is about 70% plastic and VERY power tool carvable. It can be cast directly, but most of the time we make a good silicon mold and cast poured/injected waxes from the mold(s). If you are not into casting, then this may not be a direction you want to go. If you are into casting, this might be a direction you would like. Also do you want to make one of a kinds or are you looking into making a good number of each item,,,, big difference in direction/methods of original work. Some of the items you posted pictures of are great for casting, others are not so this is an area you might give consideration to as to what you want to do. You can get a lot of stuff cast if you don't want to do that part yourself, mostly depends on what is your pleasure as far a what type of work you want to do. John Dach ![]() thanks john - yeah,
lorianne -
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 - 6:11pm
thanks john - yeah, sculptural "stuff"... stuff - thats a technical term. :) i think i would like to stick with one of a kind and be able to continue/advance without spending too much on additional tools and supplies just yet. i have watched some videos on casting and am not sure thats for me. right now i love working with the sheets and bits of metal, i just want to expand on that a little. i guess when i think of casting, i think some sort of forge or kiln is necessary, and right now i am in love with the torch and learning to use it to get the results i want. thanks for the info though, because who knows where i may go with all this new-found knowledge! Embrace Simplicity ![]() Lorianne, I neglected to
Rich Waugh -
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 - 11:42pm
Lorianne, I neglected to mention the most valuable "tool" of all - information. I suggest you obtain and study some books on silversmithing and jewelry. You'll gain new insights into techniques, design ideas and materials that will stimulate new ideas of your own. Some book I would particularly recommend are: "Metal Techniques fo rCraftsmen" by Oppi Untracht (the Bible of Metalsmithing) "Design and Creation of Jewelry" by Robert Von Neumann (old standard textbook for many colleges) "Creative Goldsmithing" and "Creative Casting" by Sharr Choate "Silversmithing" by Rupert Feingold and William Seitz (the best text on forging and raising of non-ferrous metals that I've seen) Most of these books are or have been used as textbooks for university courses so they should be available used. Both Untracht's book and Feingold's book have gotten rather expensive bought new, I was sad to see. ![]() Rich - thank you very much
lorianne -
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 3:03am
Rich - thank you very much for the book suggestions, i need that. i have searched for some classes locally, but other than a patina class at my local metal supply shop (which i am signed up to take), nothing so far. I like learning from books, but more hands on, practical learning would be great too. luckily, i am in no hurry and can start with the books for sure. i wonder if they might be available at the library? tomorrow i shall hunt for some of your suggestions, so thank you for taking the time to add them. Embrace Simplicity ![]() If your local library does
Rich Waugh -
Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 9:59am
If your local library does not have them, ask them about the InterLibrary Loan (ILL) program. They can get books from other libraries for you. AbeBooks.com is often a good source for used books, I've found. Have you checked with nearby community colleges or universities? Many have courses in metalsmithing and you could take one of their courses on an "audit" (no credit) basis fairly cheaply. You could also try SmartFlix - they rent how-to videos on metalsmithing, among other subjects. ![]() rich - i found Metal
lorianne -
Thursday, May 26, 2011 - 9:56pm
rich - i found Metal Techniques for Craftsmen at my local library and i can see why you suggested it. Embrace Simplicity ![]() Yes, I bought my first copy
Rich Waugh -
Thursday, May 26, 2011 - 10:49pm
Yes, I bought my first copy of that book in 1968 when I was a college art student. After only thirty or so years I had literally worn it out. I bought a replacement for it and had to spend a couple of hours transcribing my notes from the old one to the new one. I passed the old one along to friend who was starting out in silversmithing and she was so thrilled I thought she was going to cry. ![]() These are good books and I
marilyn -
Thursday, May 26, 2011 - 8:03pm
These are good books and I do own them. Besides being tool junkies, many of us are book junkies as well. Earlier you mentioned a torch. If you are going to work with silver and copper, I recommend an acetylene/air set up. A tiny welding flame will too easily burn holes and not be good for annealing. I’m still using the second torch I bought, a PretoLite. Guess what the first one was? Yep, a welding torch. marilyn
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lorianne -
Thursday, May 26, 2011 - 9:53pm
Marilyn - thanks for the advice on the torch. i can see that in the future i will join the ranks of tool junkies and want more tools... i'm already struggling to hold myself back from buying every tool i see! Embrace Simplicity ![]() Hi Lorianne you are doing
Moti Lalwani -
Friday, May 27, 2011 - 10:14pm
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A good jeweler's saw and
A good jeweler's saw and blades, a set of needle files and a bench pin. Those are the most fundamental tools that you can't get along without. And the list goes on and on and on and on....