what kind of artisan center would you use?

OT: Sandbox YAK

I have a question for all the artisans here:

Two women are thinking of opening an artists resource center in a rural area 30 miles from the largest metro area. This artisan center would not offer theatre/music. It would have a gallery, coffee shop and in the back would be areas for painters, drawing, writing, metal working, photography. There would also be artisan business resouces and workshops - for things like marketing, taxes, how to turn your art into a business.

My question - their question - to you is.... would this be or have been a resource you would use? Would this have helped you in the beginning? What would be your ultimate Artisan resource center?

Thanks for your help with all this. These ladies will do your work justice.


pamolson's picture

art center

Access to the internet would be so important. If there is any chance of having a web site set up so people could market their work, that would also be great.

The hardest (almost unsurmountable) part of setting out to pedal my work was the initial meeting with the gallery owners. Having to put out your work and have someone judge and perhaps reject it. Man, that was hard.

The artisan center is a wonderful idea. Best of luck to you.


Frank Castiglione's picture

Incubator

Sounds like a good jump off. In my local area, Munising Michigan, we are trying to take advantage of being a gateway community to our surrounding parks and forests. We are starting a nonprofit organization that will encompass art and culture. A successful model in Marquette Michigan served as an incubator, where private galleries evolved.It's amazing how much talent lies fallow if there is no stimulus to bring it to light. A person familiar in the world of grant writing is a strong asset. Our city leadership is quite aware of the economic advantages of an established art community and very cooperative. Although what is happening in Munising doesn't completely match what your friends are doing, I would say that involving input from all facets of your community would be advantageous.Best of luck.
Frank


lao's picture

thanks

I will pass this on, they are getting input from Springboardforthearts.org, one of them is hoping to stop by with me at the shindig to see what its going to take to open a metal section, they are going to see what input the MN Guild of Metalsmiths has, MN Assoc of Photographers, and then needs to get some input from the pottery and ceramics sector.

The biggest thing about this is going to be funding and finding quality instructors or speakers.

Laurie O
Anoka


Gene Olson's picture

So Drop by

Laurie,
Drop by!

It's a shame you missed the Shindig and only 10 miles from Anoka.
Resources were flowing.
We did a Mokume billet, forged bronze, poured bronze, torch enameled, raised copper, soldered, tig welded, had a lighting seminar on how to light your art for good photos . . .

Resource clearing houses are hard to just declare. They take time to develop, or the clout of some heavyweight (who already has the the time in, and even then not a sure thing.)
People will come to a beacon if it is bright enough to be seen. They will check out the fountain and admire it, or "reserve verbal response" (ie: they seldom tell you if your idea doesn't sound good), but even if it has the best water, you can "lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink" let alone sell him some.
You have a lot of competition in this giving time and information away for free or nearly free business.
You listed a couple of those resources.
If this is a business plan, think on it a while before you spend money.

Heather Doyle, (IndustryElle, here) is working with Mpls to organize a Fire Arts Building in Mpls.

Gene Olson
Sculptor
Elk River, MN


lao's picture

Thanks

Thanks Gene

It just really bites when life gets in the way. Anyway thanks for the update and the advice I will pass it along. I am just so used to having resources around me and having "like minded" people next door that this out in the stix thing can be perfect most of the time but when it comes to learning, hands on, and funding, the looks you get from the people out here can be discouraging.

Laurie O
Anoka


Paula's picture

ditto

I love being in the stix, but as you said, not having "like minded people" around as well as the funding.... it IS discouraging...keep on keep'en on Laurie
Paula


Gene Olson's picture

So,

So,
How long have you been in Anoka?

It is the birthplace and home of Jazz Bassist Anthony Cox.
It's where Garrison Keillor came from.

and there are philistines everywhere, not just in Anoka.

Now I am not the Greatest fan of Keillor, but have you ever heard his Anoka song. Lyric i guess.

I can see by your outfit,
that you're from Anoka.
You can see by my outfit,
that I'm from Anoka too.
So get yourself an outfit
and you can be from Anoka toooooo.

There was more but thankfully I have forgotten it.

And Stix?
not really, this is serious burbs as anybody that made the shindig can tell you. I think it's next year that the commuter rail kicks in from just north of here, thru Anoka and on to the cities. That means that all the clubs, galleries, and chaos are just a couple bucks away.

G

Gene Olson
Sculptor
Elk River, MN


lao's picture

Stix?

My family and I have been in Nowthen 8 years, Hamlake before that for 3 years, then New Brighton.

I am a Cambridge Blue Jacket tho and grew up on a 60 acre farm where neighbors talked to each other and taught and shared information and skills that were needed to keep the farm afloat.

I am looking forward to the commuter rail tho, no matter what others think - progress and change people its going to happen, just make sure its done right the first time.

Anyway, my 17 year old is off to military etc and spreading his wings, time to spread mine.

Laurie O
Anoka


bpfink's picture

Artist's Center

I find it hard to share a helpful comment here though certainly such a center would be of use to many. I never had the patience or a use for one, and still don't since my approach has been a bit off the wall instead. I do not have the answers, am undoubtedly a lousy businessman and ignore galleries and conventional outlets used to sell one's works. Basically I dislike taking much time to exhibit work except to others in creative minded trades, few of whom would ever be buyers. I have nothing against it but prefer to focus on making the works become the main object and reward. That act is where the most satisfaction blooms and gives the paybacks of personal discovery. I dislike depending on a sale to justify it's happening or continuance. Also never do a series or numbered repeat of an object unless a series of variations on a theme that has felt personally demanding or enlightening in some way. Working for the business keys to a system gets onto a boring track for me. As a result it means I resist and seldom buy many conventionally recognized 'artists' materials except as needed to best complete a physical thought. As a result most of my works start with thrown out residue or found object items even though it often means melting it down or altering so completely the origins become negated. As for sales, I firmly believe any successes originate more because of selling personal integrity, intentions and honesty's of drive and less from fitting any mode of recognized conventional standards. I will never be classified on the levels of the field's superstars but it never was a goal anyhow so no mater. In the end there are plenty of challenges to make the life of a hard working creative person quite satisfying. That satisfaction was an original goal and has worked for the last 50 years with many learning ups and downs but with no apparent end in sight. I am a poor man as money goes, but live like an anonymous king with negligible stress. What more could one ask. If a center or group site would be of benefit to many, I would think it would be because it offered community of like intentions, a place to compare and assist in helping with creative approaches of thought and little with strictly the business acumen of selling one's wares. Only the mediocre usually find keys to always succeed. Shooting for the stars and expecting many misses with rewards of knowing the why's and wherefores offer more creative community . Quantum Physics holds a solid key. Good luck and well wishes. bpfink