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Copper Work (Could use some idea's Been awhile)
josephlincoln@h... -
Saturday, August 7, 2010 - 11:32pm
Fabrication copper | help with metalwork | Memorial Ok, So one, i'm new to this blog stuff. lol. Two on a more serious note. I was raised in fabrication of metal, Copper, Stainless, Iron, Sheetmetal, Brass You name it. If it could be made, welded, fabricated my father and my grandfather has probably done it. I had my hand in there too, but these guys were the true master craftsmen. I have done copper work for roofing etc. but it has been some time. Now to my point. My father has recently passed, I want to create a copper box to hold his ashes that can have his ashes put in and the cover can be pushed over and sealed permenantly. As this will be the box his ashes shall be put into the earth with. I have some idea's but I am looking for help with explaination of the cover. I obviously do not want to solder the cover top after his ashes are in. The cover by law has to be sealed air tight, well tight.. I believe he would find it fitting that I make it. Please give me some input.l Thank you all ![]() Making an urn
Daedalus -
Sunday, August 8, 2010 - 7:10am
The first thing,sorry for your loss. In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. ![]() Making an urn
dowpat -
Sunday, August 8, 2010 - 1:13pm
I am also sorry for your loss. I make foldformed boxes that are riveted and have a bottom plate (with feet) that is dropped in and then crimped (no solder). You could build the box upside down, top riveted or crimped on, center section riveted at seam, ashes put in and then the bottom crimped in place. All patina work can be done to each section before being put together. This would work if the ashes were in a liner of some sort. If it needs to be air tight I would seal the seams with silicon after the patina is done. ![]() I actually have done 2 of
Ries -
Sunday, August 8, 2010 - 5:32pm
I actually have done 2 of these- but neither one was inspected by government or anything. The first one was a copper box, 1/8" sheet, tig welded seams, and it had a flat cover panel that screwed on with countersunk brass flat head socket screws. I think I might have used some sticky back foam door sealant strip between the two pieces of copper, so it sealed tight when it was screwed shut. That one has two people in it, and has been aboveground, outside, for over ten years now. The other one was made from aluminum pipe, with a tig welded bottom, a tig welded flange, and then, again, a top that bolted on. ![]() funery containers
Stephen Fitz-Gerald -
Monday, August 9, 2010 - 12:45pm
Stephen Fitz-Gerald Addendum; ![]() I have no advice but just
marilyn -
Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 11:50am
I have no advice but just want to say that this is a wonderful thing for you to do. Good luck. marilyn |
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Copper Work (Could use some idea's Been awhile)
Might think of making it a screw on lid. Why don't you want to solder, weld the lid on after the ashes are in the urn? It will not "hurt" the ashes and as your Father was into working metal, maybe welding the urn shut would be just the thing to do. Or your could crimp the lid closed. Also there are a number of sealing materials (mostly silicon) that could be used. Also riveting comes to mind, using a sealer to really "seal the lid" as/before it is riveted on. If you are into crimping, this too could be a way to seal the Urn. Use of a tar, either "real" tar or water thinned or thinner thinned tar or wax might be considered as a sealer. It just depends on what you lean towards and what type of closure you are interested in making. Of course you could always seal and bolt the lid on. Stainless steel would give the longest "life" for the bolts and nuts, gold would be the longest lived.
Hope this gives you some things to think about. I am sorry for your loss, but your spending time asking questions about this and doing "your correct thing for your Dad" is absolutely wonderful and a great way to honor your Father!!
My best thoughts and wishes are with you.
John Dach