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stupid injuries
jason hutcherson -
Tuesday, August 5, 2008 - 8:14pm
so we've all done something stupid in the shop or studio that has resulted in an injury. over at the john merrick post we've been discussing the fun ways a cup brush on a grinder can cause greivous bodily harm and i thought we should have a discussion of cautionary tales about things you shouldn't do while working with metal. think of this as an opportunity to warn others with a humorous tale of personal injury. keep in mind that we are not trying to be gross or creepy, so please no pictures of the missing fingers you keep in a jar or what have you. otherwise go ahead and save us from making the same dumb mistake! jason ![]() Eye Protection...A BIG
Jamie Santellano -
Tuesday, August 5, 2008 - 9:37pm
Eye Protection...A BIG MUST!!!! Saved my eyes from flames coming towards my face...not to mention the bits of metal that fly off the drill bits, and dust from the grinders. Jamie Santellano ![]() Absolutely- I second Jamie's
Rob Sigafoos -
Wednesday, August 6, 2008 - 4:28am
Absolutely- I second Jamie's point about eye protection! I also make a point of using hearing protection always, and a respirator when I grind anything. I invested in one of those positive pressure face masks which are great. It blows a steady stream of fresh, filtered air across your face under the full face mask. Absolutely wonderful on hot summer days in the shop! ![]() interesting
jason hutcherson -
Wednesday, August 6, 2008 - 1:57pm
where can i get one and what kind of money am i looking at? right now i'm relying on several box fans ![]() Positive pressure helmets
Rich Waugh -
Wednesday, August 6, 2008 - 11:33pm
They're avaiable from better welding suppliers and safety companies, as well as MSC Industrial, McMaster-Carr and others. They are also really expensive - close to a grand. And up... YOu can, however, make your own positive pressure mask from a welding helmet. I have one I made by fitting a sump pump hose (the lightweight corrugated plastic kind) to the back of my welding helmet with a "dispersion nozzle" made by heat-forming a cutoff top half of a 20 oz plastic water bottle to a flattened fan shape. The hose is supplied with air provided by a small blower inside a box that is mounted with disposable HEPA filters intended for air conditioner units. The hose is 17' (don't ask me why they chose that length, it was what was in the package) long so the blower can be outside in the shade where it pulls in nice cool air. With the HEPA filters I know it is clean air, too. Total cost for my redneck positive pressure supplied-air hood amounted to around twenty-five bucks since I scrounged the blower, the box and the water bottle. I only had to buy the hose and filters. It's definitely not as handy as the thousand buck job I used that had the battery-powered blower right on my belt and no hose to drag around, but it certainly works fine for me. I'm cheap. ![]() really diggin the outfit.
jason hutcherson -
Thursday, August 7, 2008 - 10:44am
really diggin the outfit. ![]() What do you mean by 'john
Kimberli Matin -
Wednesday, August 6, 2008 - 8:52am
What do you mean by 'john merrick post'? I would love to hear more about what others have found as the dangers of the wire cup brush.........is it getting caught on an edge and jerking in your hand? When I was teaching 'welding for fun and creativity' classes at our local community college I saw a woman (not one of my students thankfully) who was using an angle grinder that was too big for her (the huge size) and it got caught in her shirt......was forced very quickly into her body. Somehow she managed to get it turned off before it sliced completely through her stomach.......just leaving a red line across it. When I use that thing, especially when I have the cut-off wheel on it, I move in slow motion at ALL times and bring ALL of my attention to exactly what I am doing. I have actually trained myself to slow down when I feel in a rush. It's a good opportunity to practice 'presence meditation'! ![]() look under recent images
jason hutcherson -
Wednesday, August 6, 2008 - 1:52pm
the post was an image of a piece i named john merrick after the elephant man. i posted an anecdote about a cup bruch incident and it snowballed from there, thus i started this blog ![]() Hi all, besides boots,
eligius1427 -
Wednesday, August 6, 2008 - 8:17am
Hi all, besides boots, goggles, and the appropriate garb, I always tell people that help in my shop to make sure to hang on to their tools. Especially the electric ones. When I was first starting out I always used a light touch/grip with grinders and such so as to excercise my "artistic abilities" better. One day, while using an electric die grinder with a three inch cut off wheel, the wheel got caught up and the grinder flipped up into the air. It just hung in the air for a moment, conveniently posed for me to catch it, which, as any idiot may do, I tried, catching the still spinning cut off wheel in my palm. I now had two examples of my "artistic abilities" bleeding profusely on my right hand. Probably should have had stitches, but I made it through without. Thank god I followed the first rules and had gloves on, otherwise I'd never be able to try hitchhiking. I've got two nice deep scars below my right thumb to remind me every day to hang on to the tools, and if they come loose, let them drop. Jake Balcom ![]() OUCH! My hand hurts just
Jamie Santellano -
Wednesday, August 6, 2008 - 8:31am
OUCH! My hand hurts just reading this. I 'm glad your okay...can't imagine the pain. I've used those cut off wheels before, and have been in a sweat every second I had the grinder in my hands. I've had them almost get away, but luckily held on tight enough, and was able to get control over it. Not to mention all the sparks that fly off the cut...staying off to the side works wonders!!!! Again, ALWAYS use protective eye gear!!!! Jamie Santellano ![]() Scalloped sanding disk
Imperial Wheeli... -
Wednesday, August 6, 2008 - 8:43pm
SOMEWHERE I read an article...probably in a street rod magazine, that showed if you take snips and cut scallops into the edge of a sanding disk it would not dig into the panel as you were removing paint. Sounds good right? Until one of the scallops caught on the edge of the door I was stripping. At that point things got exciting very quickly. The scallop pulled the 7" grinder into the edge of the panel, shattering as it went and throwing pieces that departed at whatever the speed of a 8" sanding disk spinning at 6000 rpm is. About this time the backing pad hit the side of the door and being a bit old and hard it shattered and followed approximate the same trajectory as the disk. A rather large piece struck in a very sensitive place south of my belt. About this point in the time line, I realized that a 'BAD THING' had happened and I should let go of the trigger. I got hit really hard and was truly afraid to look but other than some bruising I was OK. No more scalloped sanding disks for me...yet another piece of bad advice from as street rod magazine. I was at a buddies last summer when a 7" grinding disk exploded and hit him in the same tender place. WW Grainger sells a really nice leather apron that I try and remember to wear when I'm grinding these days. Saves clothes too. I've caught myself on fire a few times with grinding sparks. The leather apron also makes a nice cover for things I don't want MIG splatter on. I'm old enough that it doesn't take much to get the old heart racing. Kerry Pinkerton ![]() maybe we should all start wearing cups?
jason hutcherson -
Thursday, August 7, 2008 - 2:51pm
seems to me that every guy in our line of work has a story along these lines. ![]() Now that I'm making jewelry,
Jamie Santellano -
Thursday, August 7, 2008 - 3:32pm
Now that I'm making jewelry, I solder all the time, and don't wear gloves. Not really necessary 'cause I use a small torch, and a soldering pick and tweezers for small work. So, I assemble chain for a company out here in L.A., and yesterday as I was repairing one of the links on the chain (the chain is 2' in length) when I was done I picked up one of the ends of the chain, with my fingers instead of the tweezers and burned them. Not much, but was enough to wake me up. Stupid thing to do-just not thinking...funny 'cuase I've been reading all the posts, and yet continue to do dumb things. Jamie Santellano ![]() stupid injuries
Adrian Wood -
Thursday, August 7, 2008 - 12:01am
I was forging a piece of 60mm square under the power hammer, i was rushing to get the job done and didn`t pay attention to keeping the work flat to the pallets. So as the hammer hit, it jerked the hot metal out of my tongs, out of my hands , hit me unde the chin and then landed across my fingers, causing a burn under the chin, and a line of blisters across all my fingers!! Every time i moved my hand it caused the blisters to open! lovely image!!! ![]() Shit Happens...
SteelyJan -
Thursday, August 7, 2008 - 6:27am
Once I was in the shop working with Walter, we were crunching time to get a job done...We were working on the same large table. I was welding...he was grinding. I picked up my helmet and got hit it the eye with something ...but not enough to cause me to stop working...thought it just grazed me. ![]() rust
jason hutcherson -
Thursday, August 7, 2008 - 2:52pm
a friend of mine got a tiny super super small bit of metal in her eye. so small that it didn't really bother her for a day or two. then she noticed this brown stuff on the white of her eye. it took three days but the bit of metal had begun to rust. the doctor used a magnet to remove it! oh and eyes are amazing. a while ago i got lasix to correct my vision and could see clearly that same night. ![]() Thumb Screw
Frank Castiglione -
Thursday, August 7, 2008 - 5:48pm
Ok, here's my stupid move... I was using a powerful electric screw driver driving in a long phillips head screw. I was pushing hard to keep the driver from slipping in the screw head. Well, it slipped out and screwed into my thumb bone. ![]() I had to laugh Frank...I'm
Jamie Santellano -
Thursday, August 7, 2008 - 6:47pm
I had to laugh Frank...I'm sorry, but I have done dumbs things over and over too! =D Jamie Santellano ![]() stupid near miss
Jaybird -
Thursday, August 7, 2008 - 8:26pm
HI all, I had to respond because this one is really silly. Recieved a load of big iron, 1x6x6 angle for a job. grabed it with the shop crane in middle with nylon sling. then I was setting it down on 2x4s with angle leg up. Didnt get 2x4 under far enough so as weight came off the crane, the load tiped to side pinning my ankle to a wide flange beam already on floor, and very nicely unhooking itself from the crane, with sling just out of reach. No real pain, but I was stuck and no getting out. After fishing for about two hours to hook sling and no luck, wife gets home from store and saves me. Ofcourse she had to laugh for 5 min. point a water hose at me, and ask how much it was worth not to get wet. 50 bucks. It was really cold that day. jay ![]() My Tidbit
Chuck Girard -
Thursday, August 7, 2008 - 9:04pm
Jason, Safety Safety Safety.... ![]() as i said, we all need to wear cups
jason hutcherson -
Thursday, August 7, 2008 - 9:34pm
one time i forgot to move my belt buckle around to the side and it touched the welding table. sometimes i wonder if i'm still able to have kids. ![]() torn, so to speak
man of mettle -
Thursday, August 7, 2008 - 10:22pm
when i am in my shop, i lock the door. the theory is that i do not want to be surprised when i am, say -- using the angle grinder to cut something, but then i wonder whether i am working against myself. suppose i cut off a finger or gouge my abdomen? my rescuers would have to break down the door. keith ![]() That's a good one...I've
Jamie Santellano -
Friday, August 8, 2008 - 8:00am
That's a good one...I've often thought of that 'cause my pre-teen loves to come and ask for things all the time, and she always manages to sneak in, and startle me. Your right if accidents occur then what next? Jamie Santellano ![]() dumb and dumber
Paula -
Friday, August 8, 2008 - 6:24am
My hubby has told me to make sure i wear gloves while running the torch......had a job where there were lots of leaves and i was 'tweaking' the leaves with the torch, without gloves. was so focused on the leaf that i ran my hand in front of the torch....did you know that skin melts really similar to plastic melting....huh, i didn't know that!...slack tubs are good for many things, like holding burned hands in cold water...... dumb dumb, yes, i use gloves now while running the torch.... Paula ![]() Jason...what did you start???
SteelyJan -
Friday, August 8, 2008 - 6:36am
This has been one of the most informative and amusing blogs we've had. Just when you think you can do stupid things ...someone comes up with one better.... ![]() Same thing
warren -
Saturday, August 9, 2008 - 8:21am
Paula, yep I did the same thing. I was gas welding some copper and had the torch turned up pretty high. I dropped my welding rod and went to bend over to pick it up. Well the torch found its way to the outside of my left hand. The quench tank was no use because the skin just bubbled and burst. Real melted look. ER took care of it and I can't even see the scar anymore. It was the worst burn I ever got. Also too many melted finger tips buy picking up the wrong end of the welding rod, I use to put a little bend in the cold end, but get in a hurry and forget. Then I always like it when I shift the welding rod in my hand and it ends up sticking me in the stomach. Just a little artist branding going on. warren |
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I'm first.....
Always...always..remember it's hot...after you have welded it...after you have ground it,after you cut it, after you forged it...IT'S
HOT!!!!!
I don't usually burn myself in the studio but always in the kitchen....(ask Rob , I lit a match + flambed my face last Sat.) anyway....
I was working on a sculptural table and me and my assitant had just finihed welding the top to the base. We were discussing something and.....
I DID NOT EVEN TOUCH THE TABLE TOP...Iwent to put my hand down felt the heat ...pulled away , but not before I had a major burn on my palm.....
Did I seek medical attention...not!....but I did sleep with my hand in a bucket of ice that night...Ouch!
Now when someone is working with me ...I always remind them ...That's hot!!!!(and I'm not talking about their body or anything) SteelyJan