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Gallery visit...
Jamie Santellano -
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 - 8:05pm
Well, were to begin...recently I went on a trip to go see my work in a Gallery. This was my first visit to the Gallery, and I took some new pieces of jewelry with me and also had a show while I was in town. I had encountered some interesting things on my visit, and would like some input on what you would do about what I'm about to share with you, but before I begin I have drawn my own conclusions and am sticking to my guns on this one... Upon my arrival to the Gallery I saw my jewelry along with others' mixed in a few small glass cases. The jewelry had looked as if it had tarnished quite a bit, and almost seemed to me like I was looking at bunch of antique jewelry...you know how sometimes it looks a bit cluttered and un-kept. I tried not to let it bother me too much, but still felt really uncomfortable about it. I also found out that my jewelry has been worn quite a bit by the owner and the gals that work there. I noticed a some scratches on one of the cuffs that I had sent over there about a year ago too. Earrings have been worn and the ear wires are not cleaned with alcohol...just put back on the display...really not happy with that at all! Later, after talking to the owner I found out that my work has been discounted quite a bit...our contract says that we are 50-50 on consignment. I am however getting paid the full amount of my share, but what I really don't like about the whole situation is that the owner on many occasions has told me to make sure that my prices on my website are the same as she is selling my work at in the Gallery. I understand that the owner wants to run the Gallery a certain way, but I feel like the owner is being very dishonest and not keeping to her end of the deal. The owner also asked me to discount my work by 20% just to make a sale. I'm already at 50% plus I pay for shipping and handling, so really I'm not at 50% once the sale is complete. Aside from this I saw lots of paintings sitting on the floor in the Gallery, and I'm talking about paintings that are going for $20,000.00...wonder if the Artist knows that their work is just sitting on the floor of the Gallery stacked against other paintings??? The next thing I witnessed was a shipment of jewelry come in from an new Artist to the Gallery, and there was a pair of earrings that came in the shipment that the owner thought were just way too long (they had chain that dangled long and would most likely sit on the shoulders when worn) and told the gal that was working to take out the wire cutters in the back and cut the earrings if a customer wanted to shorten them, and then proceeded to say that this was a very common thing to do. I was so angry to hear that she would take it upon herself to alter someone's work instead of calling the Artist and having a shorter pair sent in place of this pair. I told her that I didn't like what I was hearing her say, and that I hoped she wouldn't do that to my work...she then laughed and said "If I cut links off or your work, I'll just send you back the links, ha ha ha ha." I thought OMG! can't believe this is going on...wow! There's more...the owner decorates her home with some of the paintings that she has on consignment from the other Artists and says she just doesn't want to sell the pieces because she likes them so much. What??? I couldn't believe this! Is this common behavior with Gallery Owners??? Glad I took this trip and learned a lot from it...wow! Please share your input if you have any...Like I said before I have already made up my mind in what I'm going to do about the situation, but would like to hear what you think about this. Jamie ![]() Wow.........Sorry to hear
enchanted iron -
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 - 8:47pm
Wow.........Sorry to hear that, I dont know your situation but it doesnt sound like this "gallery" is doing you any good financially, I would remove all my jewelry and find a gallery that appreciates your art, im sure you wouldnt have any trouble finding one, although i suspect thats what you have already decided to do?.....Good luck! ![]() Thanks Enchanted iron, It's
Jamie Santellano -
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 - 10:44pm
Thanks Enchanted iron, It's all going to work out in the end...I think I'm going to put the Gallery thing on the back burner for now. I do have a website and originally that's what I wanted to focus on...just thought I'd try this out. Jamie Santellano ![]() crquack, Yes, I have learned
Jamie Santellano -
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 - 10:40pm
crquack, Jamie Santellano ![]() galleries...
Stephen Fitz-Gerald -
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 - 8:42pm
Stephen Fitz-Gerald ![]() Stephen, Yes it's all too
Jamie Santellano -
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 - 10:49pm
Stephen, Yes it's all too true about the relationship...I think I'm ready fro some changes. I gave this Gallery a year, and now I think it's time for something new. I would like to go back to my website and work on that a bit more...who knows maybe focus on making my catalog like I had wanted to months agao Thanks for sharing! Jamie Santellano ![]() So True
warren -
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 10:02am
Jamie, so sorry to hear about the terrible gallery. As mentioned this is very acceptable from the galleries to act like idiots at times. They somehow think that we owe them for letting them sell our work. I am glad I never do jewelry and if I would of seen what you saw I think that I might of ended up in jail for beating the crap out of somebody. I too have had some bad gallery experiences and very seldom will use one. It always amazes me how dirty some of the art work gets sitting at their place. www Metalrecipes -- heat and beat to the desired shape, repeat as necessary. ![]() Thanks Warren for your input
Jamie Santellano -
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 10:57am
Thanks Warren for your input as well. This is truly my first experience with a Gallery and had a whole different picture painted in my mind as to what information was given when I first started with them a year ago. Life is good and I will grow from this experience. Thanks again for your comments! Jamie Santellano ![]() Hi Jamie, Although I have no
hautsteel -
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 10:41am
Hi Jamie, ![]() Dino! Thank you so much...
Jamie Santellano -
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 11:02am
Dino! Thank you so much... I know there are a few problems with my website and search engines. I started to work on them and then was carried away by something else. You know how that goes...I will be getting back on track with that soon! I will shoot you an e-mail soon to see what you might suggest in accordance to what I was told to do about my site. I spent lots of time working on my site myself and need to update it and promote it... Many new changes to be made in the New Year! I'm very excited!! Thanks! Happy Thanks Giving! Jamie Santellano ![]() SEO expert
silvermon -
Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 12:12am
Dino, ![]() Dan, The best piece of
hautsteel -
Friday, November 27, 2009 - 9:58am
Dan, The best piece of knowledge I can share, would be that Google provides an excellent resource (22 page pdf) for webmasters interested in basic SEO techniques here: google.com/webmasters/docs/search-engine-optimization-starter-guide.pdf Anyone interested in the topic should read this prior to building the first page on their site. If you have any specific questions related to your site, perhaps remit via email, as the topic isn't really related to the scope of this forum - unless it's ok with our moderators... Have a great day! Dino ![]() Yuk
eligius1427 -
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 10:18pm
Hi Jamie, sorry to hear about the gallery experience. Although I agree with most of the comments already made, and definitely vote to end the relationship with this gallery, my take on what to do now is the opposite of what I'm reading. Instead of giving up on the gallery thing, I think you should double your efforts. A good gallery relationship is a great way, maybe the only way, to break into markets in places not close to you. The people walking in to a gallery to buy pieces are already looking to spend that kind of money so it's simply a matter of catching their eye and whether the jewelry appeals to their taste. I think this case was just a bad match and the lesson is that you don't sign up with a gallery unless you've seen it in person. The gallery relationship is a long term relationship that should benefit both parties equally and good ones are not easily found. They take a lot of hard work to establish, but once you've established a good one, it will probably be life long. I was just talking to a successful painter about galleries and she was saying that two galleries have been carrying and selling her work for over 20 years, very profitably. She said she's had bad experiences as well, but she learned from them and used that info in the search for the next one. I say enjoy Thanksgiving, then get your ass out there a look for a gallery that will work for you, interview THEM not the other way around, find a gallery that fits for your style and medium, look at their space, and don't take a gallery that carries more than 20-25 artists. Anymore than that and they can't dedicate enough time to selling your work. Just remember that it's supposed to be hard, otherwise everyone would be selling jewelry in galleries, lol. Have a great Thanksgiving Jake Jake Balcom ![]() Hey Jake! Thanks for the
Jamie Santellano -
Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 11:49am
Hey Jake! Jamie Santellano ![]() Free info
warren -
Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 11:32am
Jamie, not sure why you need a lawyer for the contracts when there is a lot of free information available to artist. Some really good articles at artbusiness.com May help what you are trying to achieve. Furthermore most "good" galleries have a contract that is good for both the gallery and the artist. Like Jake mentioned it just takes time, and I mean a lot of time to find the gallery that suits you best. Not sure how much is avialable in your area but there might be some local artist networking sites to help find the "hot" spots to sell your work in your area. www Metalrecipes -- heat and beat to the desired shape, repeat as necessary. ![]() Thanks Warren, Jamie
Jamie Santellano -
Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 1:42pm
Thanks Warren, I have been going to this site quite a bit. I would still prefer to talk to someone though... Jamie Santellano ![]() Gallery visit
visitor -
Friday, November 27, 2009 - 1:16pm
Jamie, Gather up your work and RUN, don't walk, from this gallery! As a gallery owner myself, as well as a jewelry artist, I would like to know the name of this "gallery". It is true that some places are run that way but we are not all abusive to our artist/clients. A good gallery is well worth their 50%, a bad gallery isn't worth 10%. Better luck in the future! ![]() Yikes. Perhaps somethings
Dick C -
Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 11:59am
Yikes. Perhaps some things appeared worse than they were after you received a few bad impressions. Are they equipped to care for jewelry? Do they have anything to clean it with? Polished sterling would benefit from an occasional cleaning with a polishing cloth, at least. Wearing consignment pieces for any extended period of time shouldn't be allowed. Modeling pieces occasionally might help create interest, but the risk and responsibility should be theirs. I would expect them to maintain the pieces in the condition they were received in. I wouldn't be too concerned about them shortening dangling chain earrings. I would think of that as a simple alteration to get a proper fit. However, it does sound like you need to have an understanding that any alteration or sizing would mean the piece is sold. If you have things that you don't want altered in any way make sure they know. Their request that you both have pieces marked at the same price seems reasonable to me. If you under-price them, their customers who find your web site will will buy from you instead, or feel bad if they already made a purchase. This is especially true if you have galleries or stores that make outright purchases. You have to determine a price that works for both of you. Sales and discounts are something else. ![]() Hi Dick, Thanks for your
Jamie Santellano -
Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 1:38pm
Hi Dick, Thanks for your comments...yes they are equipped with the right polishing cloths and things to help keep the jewelry looking good. I think that maybe since they have been wearing the jewelry outside of the store (not just for modeling purposes) that the work is becoming more so tarnished, and as I said before I found some scratches. All in all I have learned from this experience. As I walked around the little town I was able to look at some of the other Galleries and jewelry stores and saw their displays and realize how I would much rather show my work. I saw very clean displays (no dust, and not cluttered) and each Artist's collections were separate from one another, so you knew who's collection you were looking at... Anyhow, It was good to see what is going on no matter... Thanks! Jamie Santellano ![]() Sorry to hear this has
QuiQue -
Wednesday, December 2, 2009 - 10:25am
Sorry to hear this has happened to you Jamie. Thing is, if you leave work on consignment, then the gallery owner will do whatever they want because they do not have a vested interest. My suggestion is to only do consignment work in your local area so that you can check up on the gallery on a monthly basis. All other artwork should be wholesaled to the gallery. You may not have as much work "OUT IN THE MARKET," but you will have more peace of mind and less out of pocket expenses for sending your art to galleries that MAY sell with no guarantees. It's a shame that some galleries will do this. It really puts a bad name on doing consignment work for galleries. ![]() Hi QuiQue, Thanks for you
Jamie Santellano -
Thursday, December 3, 2009 - 11:37am
Hi QuiQue, Thanks for you suggestions...this has been a really good experience, although at first I felt angry about it. I didn't understand the way it all works. Now that more time has past, I know more now of what I ideally want for my future and that's a great thing. What's really funny about this whole experience is that my thoughts and focus has shifted back to the very things I wanted most when I began selling my art. Jamie Santellano ![]() Dear Jamie, and All
charles wu -
Saturday, December 26, 2009 - 5:57am
Dear Jamie, and All here Marry Xmas! and Happy New Year ! Here's wishing you, your family, your friends.... all peace, joy , happiness and Great Healthy this Christmas, and all the best in the New Year 2010! ------------------------------------------------- |
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An eye opener indeed! I
An eye opener indeed!
I guess the only question is: Can you afford to sever all ties with this particular gallery?
crquack