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Proper concrete for footings and distortion correction
J4 -
Saturday, November 24, 2007 - 10:48pm
Fabrication I'm currently working on a rail that is to be installed in a pre cored retaining wall with 3" dia. and 8" depth for posting. The stancheons are 1" sq. tube 1/8" wall.I generally use mechanical fasteners but since the holes were there and on fairly accurate 6' centres I decided totake advantage of them....... Question: what is the best mortar/concrete to use and should the metal (aside from being powder coated) be treated with some type of coating for longevity. Since I'm on a wordy tangent I have two other querries, One is that of distortion correction or prevention techniques or literature that aren't directed towards ship builders and the like ( has anyone ever used Wagners 3 chock straightener?) Two, possibly the unanswerable one that of bidding or pricing standards for non-commercial architectural metal? Pointing me in any direction for any of these would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Thanx Matt and Enrique
J4 -
Sunday, November 25, 2007 - 5:07pm
Both very good answers on all points. And Matt, Ha Ha on pricing is exactly what I expected. It's definitely a tough one. I've often felt as if I were charging to much and to little at the same time. Further more, you are both brilliant artisans and I learn much from viewing your works. I will try to get some JPEG's As far as geography goes I am in Seattle » reply I use roofing tar to coat
webminster -
Sunday, November 25, 2007 - 1:03pm
I use roofing tar to coat the part of the metal which will be inside the concrete. Apply liberally and wrap it with plastic until installation. The reason for the plastic is because the roofing tar does not dry very well, and since you will be applying a thick coat, it likely not to dry until months later. My understanding from talking with an architect is that the tar prevents the acidity from the concrete from passivation to the steel. » reply i concure
alex b. -
Monday, November 26, 2007 - 12:25am
Alex b. here in California, i don't know were you are, most contractors use "pour stone","rockite", which are name brands for non-shrink, it actually expands about 15% to fill in all the cracks, self leveling, sets in 15 minutes type mixture that comes in 10lb box's or 5 gallon buckets. King Architectural Metals {kingmetals.com} has the rockite and manufacture says does not have any additives that promote rust. $41.95 per bucket and they ship and will send you a free catalog. {i don't work for them, just use their stuff.} » reply |
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Hi J4,
Hi J4, and welcome,
First off, pour-stone is the product I use for cored aplication, and it sounds like the rusted rail your talking about is because of poor fabrication and finishing of the railing.
as to the straitener, it works great just take it slow or you end up with a dog leg
and pricing, ha ha ha, good luck
#1 - your only as good as your last job
#2 - you will learn when it costs you
#3 - when you figure out the answer to bidding let me know
the bidding subject is a bit tricky, every geological area is difforant as to the market and demand, also every smith is difforan as to how much there end product is WORTH.
I for one would be more than happy to share money isues after I have seen your work. Not to be rude, but the product always comes first.
Matt