Candle wax to victory brown...?? Any ideas how to do it.

Casting

Candle wax is always in cheap supply at thrift stores. I was wondering if there was a way to make it resemble victory brown.

Thanks,
Henri

Found this but there must be a better way..

Microcrystalline Soft

Add 10% to paraffin wax for use in glass containers (makes wax sticky).
Can also be used for making your own modelling wax:
use 70% micro soft and 30% paraffin wax melted together with upwards of 1% petroleum jelly to soften.


B.J. Severtson's picture

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Just a few suggestions: do a search on " wax recipes sculpture" Check out the archives here for a good general discussion of wax types used in casting. I can understand the economics behind your quest. The wax might not be that expensive but shipping can offset savings. Basic tool for making your own is a double boiler, them some things to pour your product into. cookie sheets, baking pans. Depending on the temps, wax can be extruded using cake decorating tools. A piece of inner-tube with the valve stem could become a rod extruder bag. Brad


henribeaulieu's picture

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Hello,

Near as I can tell the structure is so different it isn't going to work.


B.J. Severtson's picture

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After about two minutes of checking I found a candle wax supplier. he listed 17 different waxes for making candles. If your plan is to use discarded or surplus candles to produce a particular type of wax. There are just too many variables. Still the concept of making your own sculpture wax is a viable concept. There are many recipes available on line. Buy the ingredients, follow instructions. Waxes are chosen for their working characteristics, blending them isn't anything unusual, many do. Brad


henribeaulieu's picture

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I guess I need to clarify to all :)

Victory brown wax is a different ball game from candle wax. I am familiar with waxes and casting bronze. That is why I am asking if anyone 'knows' of a way to make candle wax suitable for casting. As it is, and I have tried adding different things, it still seems to be too hard and brittle to slush cast. I have tried to slush cast the wax and it almost works for pieces without unndercuts, - still brittle though.

In a nut shell the crystalline structure of parrafin is big, microcrystalline was is small.

What I am asking is if anyone knows how to modify it.

Thanks,
Henri
www.henribeaulieu.com


B.J. Severtson's picture

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Henri,
The problem gets to be the term "candle wax" really has no definite meaning. I found many different types, too many to know what you have. But if you insist in candle wax, Ok. The Roman Catholic Church demands that it's ceremonial candles contain 51% bees wax. About 1/10 of the bees wax produced is used in candle making. Mostly replaces by cheaper petroleum based paraffin. The Egyptians used bees wax, historically speaking, to do lost wax casting. For more than anyone ever wanted to know about bees wax. Go to
www.cd3wd.com or do a search on "value added products from beekeeping" The stuff is everywhere and in everything. Wax gets to be a big world. There literally are animal, vegetable and even mineral. Then synthetics. This problem gets further compounded by yet another variable. You want to slush cast it into your mold. Temperature of the wax and the temp of the mold will have an effect. The problem is then compounded by the movement of the mold during filling, the gravity effect. It's a little like making a chocolate Easter bunny, lots of spinning and turning. The problem of finding a recipe. Is that most people are looking for waxes that set up harder than your brown and are more carvable and finish able after being produced. Do I have the answer for you, don't know. Brad


Gene Olson's picture

getting into the wax the bees nesst

Does anybody have any pictures of the Bees wax pieces from a few years ago?

There was an artist that was taking some of his waxes and placing them into hives. The bees would add to them and mine and rearrange portions. He would then harvest and edit their work to his vision.

Gene Olson
Sculptor
Elk River, MN


henribeaulieu's picture

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yeah, okay. - in response to the not knowing what kind of candle. I will call the vatican and ask them.