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Folded form in a 1915 copper bowl
Gene Olson -
Wednesday, December 5, 2007 - 10:55pm
Repousse & Chasing copper | fold forming | foldforming | Nikrassoff | raising copper | repousse A couple years ago I saw this bowl and took some notes, not nearly enough notes.
Earlier this year I took my old notes on the pattern and geometry and started a smaller version working from years old memories. . . I wanted to do a proof of concept study to show that the bowl was not raised, but rather an object fold formed from a flat sheet. my version is greatly simplified but does illustrate the process and my thesis.
The staff at the Art institute were very helpful and provided me with the image of the piece at the top of the page. and the following information: Dear Mr. Olson:
It was lovely to speak with you the other day in regards to our copper bowl by artist Karl Nikrassoff. Please find attached a black-and-white image of the piece. I've included some basic information on the piece below for your reference:
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Department: Architecture, Design, Dec. Arts, Craft, and Sculpture
Object Name: Bowl
Classification: Metalwork
Maker: Karl Nikrassoff, American (born Russia), active early 20th century
Birth Place: Russia, Europe/Asia
Maker Geography: United States, North America
Date Label: c.1915
Period: 20th century
Origin: United States, North America
Medium: Copper
Description:
hand-wrought; flat center with small hammered circles; walls of vertical waved lines all facing the same direction
Dimensions: 2 7/8 x 14 5/8 in. (7.3 x 37.15 cm)
Mark(s): impression on bottom 'Nikrasoff'
Credit Line: The Christina N. and Swan J. Turnblad Memorial Fund
Current location: MIA, On View - G334
Label Text:
Karl Nikrasoff's copper designs are not as well known as those produced by Gustav Stickley's Craftsman Workshops and Elbert Hubbard's Roycroft Copper Shop, yet they possess a dynamism that is distinctive in the area of Arts and Crafts metalwork. Nikrasoff was a Russian Jewish emigré who came to New York around the turn of the century and developed a line of decorative copper. This set of candlesticks and bowl are probably among his earliest works. Besides their references to European Art Nouveau metalwork, the swirling gadroons of the bowl are very similar to a Russian gold and niello ceremonial dish in the Armory Museum in Moscow's Kremlin that was a gift in 1561 from Ivan the Terrible to his second wife. It was much copied by Moscow goldsmiths through the seventeenth century; thus Nikrasoff could have very well been familiar with the original or a later version.
Gene
Gene, I suspect the
Fred Zweig -
Thursday, December 6, 2007 - 7:58am
Gene, I suspect the Nikrasoff bowl is a combination of raising, chasing and embossing. The bowl appears to be rather deep. I have examples of circular trays that use the same process you used to create volume and some depth. They were made by a yet unknown craftsman who signed his work J.Braun with and awl and hammer. I too made a test using only a flat sheet adn then chasing in six spirals from the center and then bossing out the backside. I will post image when I can. Thanks for sharing the image of the original copper piece. Fred Fred Zweig » reply Fred,I shall have to make
Gene Olson -
Thursday, December 6, 2007 - 9:11am
Fred, The concentric hammer blow pattern on the bottom shows how the base was tuned and leveled by planishing. That action also would have deepened the bowl. The bowl was not particularly deep. My bowl had a single sided flute in each radial pattern, The Nikrasoff bowl has double sided flutes which eat up lots of material. That was partially offset by the stretching the texture blows added to that portion of the radial flutes. Gene Olson » reply Gene, I think the reason for
warren -
Saturday, December 8, 2007 - 12:10pm
Gene, warren » reply ![]() raising vs folding or bending
visitor -
Monday, December 10, 2007 - 12:07pm
Warren, Charles and I have been discussing this. Raising is not the major operation in the formation of this shape however. Raising involves pushing the material into itself by making ruffles or tucks and then pounding them back into the sheet, or by working it over a stake so that raised area being struck is driven down and into itself and the surrounding supporting area. The process of raising involves a change in surface area and an increase in thickness, (and sometimes a relocation of that volume to an adjacent area) My thesis is that the shape is developed by folding or bending, like making an angle bracket, or a box, or a fluted coffee filter. » reply Fold Forming
Rick Crawford -
Saturday, December 15, 2007 - 8:05am
I am having trouble understanding how to fold form something like you did here. How can you fold something on other than a straight line? Are you using repousse tools to create the folds or something like that? And what is a t-fold? I have more questions than anything else. I only wish I had as much money as questions, I would quit working for others and start getting some answers by trial and error. Rick Crawford at Smoky Forge » reply There are several ways to go
Gene Olson -
Saturday, December 15, 2007 - 9:55am
There are several ways to go about it. I started the folds by tracing them with a hammer and stake moving along the bend line making the bend. kind of like if you took a spoon and clamped it in a vice, laid a piece of foil on it, and then pressed down with a finger just to the side of the tip. It would start a fold at that spot. Marilyn suggested bending a piece of steel strap to match the radial curve and sharpening the edges, then pounding the metal down over the edge of the strap with a soft hammer; after which you would move to the next location and repeat til done. Additional folding work would be required but you would get your geometry and a start all in one go. G. Gene Olson, Sculptor » reply |
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So much history and so
So much history and so little time to relearn it. Thanks for the lessons.