metal talk

I keep reading the postings on artmetal dead or not, wow......lets talk some metal, weve got facebook for everything else....LOL. Ive had a local blacksmith tell me that "true" wrought iron can readily be found in demolished buildings or bridges etc...that are 100 years old or more, anybody have any thoughts to back that up? I actually put the first piece ive ever dealt with given to me by him in the forge last night. what a difference in the ease of movement! Still need to play a little more, i started "tearing" it eventually.....


Dick C's picture

I've heard that same thing

I've heard that same thing about wrought iron. Every time I see an old iron structure I wonder, is it -- or isn't it? While I'd think, that with the general unavailability of the material somebody would have staked out any structures that are wrought iron. Maybe not all of them though.


Rich Waugh's picture

True wrought iron was made

True wrought iron was made in the US as late as about 1950, so there is a bunch of it out there in various places. Old wagon rims, bridge parts, building beams, etc, made before the first World War will most likely be wrought.

Wrought is easy enough to spot if you cut it part way through and then break it - the break will show as fibrous in nature if true wrought.

Wrought came in several grades, from muck bar at the bottom to triple refined at the high end. The difference being how many times the bar was forged and/or forge welded to tighten the grain and make it more homogeneous. For work where you'll be etching to show the grain, the regular merchant bar is about right. The triple refined won't show bold enough striations when etched.

When you forge wrought iron, keep it very hot! If you try to work it below a bright orange heat it will very likely separate. Wrought iron takes much higher heat to "burn" than mild steel, so you'll be fine working it at a high yellow to almost white heat. If it starts to "spark" you're too hot.

Have fun with it! It's a joy to forge weld, by the way.

Rich


visitor's picture

Wrought Iron

The wrought iron will become much harder to fine in a few years do to the fact that so many under employeed people are jumping into the salvage metal business to make a few bucks. I have also found that the Mom & Pop scrap yards are being bought up by the Big Businesses and they do not sell to the public and or artist. So if it gets to the scrap yard, it is as good as gone, and off it goes back to the steel mill.
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Jman's picture

Yep...

You're right about the metal yards ! I'm in a CITY of a MILLION people and we have only ONE (1) freakin' public YARD to go to... Although I find some ULTRA cool stuff there and get good deals, the stuff disappears as quickly as it gets there...

Most ALL the salvage places that get the REALLY good stuff have no access for the public anymore. They simply shred and then pack the containers FULL and ship everything out to ASIA as soon as it's ready. I've seen some BEAUTIFUL and EXCEPTIONAL gates, doors and Fencing (From Old Churches, buildings, etc..) sitting on top and inside SCRAP HEAPS that were simply going to the SHREDDER. I'm sure that to someone in the know, (such as a BLACKSMITH) that stuff must have been worth an ABSOLUTE FORTUNE.

What a shame...

/Jman...