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Toughest Project Yet
eligius1427 -
Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 6:05pm
curved | railing | steel Hi all, thought I'd post a project from a bit earlier this summer which ended up being the toughest project I've worked on yet. Although I've never done a curved railing before, it was the logistics of the project that made it so difficult. First off, I came in late on the project, the steel worker on the job wasn't able to fabricate it, so I wasn't involved with the design process and all I had to go off of for a set of plans was a couple of photos from a magazine. At this point the rail had to be fabricated on site, had i been involved with the project from the get go, i think we could have figured out a way to build it in the shop and then crane it up, but it was too late for that. Second, the project was already 6weeks behind and the clients were living in a motel room bc their previous house had sold and they were chomping at the bit to move in. The job site was in one of the Penthouse Condos on top of a 14 story building requiring two elevators to get up to the site, one to the 12th floor and then another very small elevator(or stairway) to the 14th floor. This second elevator was too small for 8' materials and as slow as you can imagine, 30 feet per minute which seems like an eternity in a small stuffy box. The Gen. Contractor originally said i could bolt the hossfeld in the kitchen area(empty at the time), which was then outfitted with cabinets and equipment 3 days later and then the living room which got a brand new prefinished hardwood floor a few days later. Using the Hossfeld in the condo was out, to say the least, but we did use it in the shop with a jig for the mezzanine and used the Portabender for everything else(a very handy little tool) which was done on site. On the day we move most of our equipment in to the condo we were greeted by half a dozen movers moving furniture in, so now i not only had an expensive hardwood floor directly under where i was working, but a baby grand piano, mirrors, a hand carved privacy screen, two full sized glass door wine cellars directly the the bottom of the stairway, and a couple of statues to work around and not destroy. I was on the porch talking to my lawyer as all of this was happening and he assured me that I would in no way be liable for any damages now. I finally told the client that there was a 50/50 chance that her stuff would get ruined if she moved any more in and that pretty much took care of that. Due to the floor and furniture, the entire rail had to be tig welded to avoid spatter and smoke. I chose to use cold rolled bar stock(3/8"x1-1/2")for the top and bottom bar of the rail so I didn't have to worry about mill scale with the TIG welding, but it proved to be really difficult to form, it was a lot stiffer than Hot Rolled steel. Figuring out the curve and the twist for a curved staircase was a taxing experience as well. We finally got, but it took longer than i expected and it about drove Rob(guy helping me) and I insane. Even though the rail should have been one of the first things completed in the remodeling process, it was the last and i had up to 8 other contractors working on the stairway at the same time. I would come in in the morning to find my equipment moved out of the way and parts of the stairway i was working on sheathed, lol. I finally gave up being polite and would just rip something down if it was in my way. After a couple of meltdowns the other contractors finally got the gist that the rail had to be finished before they could finish their tasks. The irony was pretty ridiculous, all of these people trying to rush to get things done just slowed me up which in turn prevented them from getting done, lol. It was really insane at times. With having to be so careful not to destroy things that shouldn't be there, waiting for people to clear out so i could work, redoing things that other contractors changed, looking for tools that had been moved, etc the job took a lot longer than it should have. I had almost 40 man hours of waiting, 4 hrs us watching movers, 4 hrs waiting for the elevator to get repaired so we could get our tools, etc. Thank God I had my friend Rob helping me, no way I could have finished the project and stayed somewhat sane without his help. Anyway, blah blah blah enough background and on to the picts. Here are a few of the project right after we finished, it has been painted by now, but I want a photographer to take the final picts, so I'll post some of the painted rail then. All of the pickets are are custom made and the shoulder detail on them were hand "carved" with flapper discs. On the stairs, every picket is a different length and cut angle in order to keep the ridge of the shoulder the same height. All of the corners on the cap rail had to be custom fit by cutting them down the middle bending each half and then rewelding. This process ended up flattening the profile, so I then had to build up the center with mig welds and carve the profile back in using a flapper disc. The cap rail got a burnished finish with linseed oil and the pickets and structure of the rail were painted black. Thanks Don, lot's of
eligius1427 -
Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 4:23pm
Thanks Don, lot's of sleepless nights, but it felt good to be able to pull it off. I don't think I'll ever do it again though. Jake Jake Balcom » reply Impressive
Frank Castiglione -
Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 8:22pm
Hi Jake, » reply Did it dry
warren -
Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 8:35pm
Jake great project and did you ever get the linseed mixture to dry on the railing? www Metalrecipes -- heat and beat to the desired shape, repeat as necessary. » reply Thanks Warren, ya
eligius1427 -
Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 4:29pm
Thanks Warren, ya eventually. I smoothed out the bumps using a rag and solvent and the painters had stripped some off on the edges to get tape to stick, both of which helped the drying. They never let me come back though to put the second coat on, so there very well could be unprotected parts. They were informed about the possible results that could pop up, but neither the general contractor or the clients seemed to concerned. I tried arranging a time to come put the second coat on for about 4 weeks, then gave up. What can you do. Thanks again for your help and advice, I could have never finished without it. Jake Jake Balcom » reply Thanks Frank, too bad it
eligius1427 -
Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 4:25pm
Thanks Frank, too bad it wasn't a fairy tale, lol. Jake Balcom » reply Outstanding, bless your
KevinW -
Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 9:30pm
Outstanding, bless your heart. » reply Thanks Kevin Jake
eligius1427 -
Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 4:29pm
Thanks Kevin Jake Balcom » reply Passion redefined!
Andre Steynberg -
Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 11:21pm
Hi Jake, What an absolutely delightful story and end result! Gives me inspiration for the times I've spent whining about obstacles and challenges on site. Your passion and persistence shines through, and I will certainly take a leaf out of your book for my current and future projects. A huge round of applause for your achievement! » reply Thanks Andre, I think in the
eligius1427 -
Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 4:32pm
Thanks Andre, I think in the end it came down to persistence/stubbornness. I was ready to throw my metalworking passion, welder, helmet, tools, and much more over the balcony many times during this project. It was definite testimony to the advice of "just keep putting one foot in front of the other and you'll eventually come to the end". Jake Jake Balcom » reply Great Story
Dave Frei -
Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 11:44am
Thanks Jake for sharing. Definately not an enviable situation but you clearly rose to the challenge. A side note, your flapper disc work is impressive. Did you shape the pickets in the shop or on site? Dave Frei » reply Thanks Dave, we did the
eligius1427 -
Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 4:34pm
Thanks Dave, we did the contour work in the shop and to be honest my helper Rob did most of the shaping. He has a pretty good eye and great attention to detail. Jake Jake Balcom » reply Beautiful and greatly
QuiQue -
Friday, September 25, 2009 - 5:02pm
Beautiful and greatly crafted curved railing. I'm amazed at how well you did for the first attempt to the world of curved railings. I have always shied away from these types of railings because the math to calculate the curves just does not compute... Thanks for sharing! » reply Thanks Enrique, figuring out
eligius1427 -
Friday, September 25, 2009 - 5:22pm
Thanks Enrique, figuring out the curve/twist of the top and bottom bars was really difficult to wrap our brains around as well. I felt like i was trying to put a square block in a round hole most of the time. Lots of trial and error, we eventually found that it was easier to do in small segments and then weld them together. Actually not sure if I'll put it in my portfolio or not because I don't know if I want to do another one either, it literally made my head hurt trying to figure some of these things out. Jake Jake Balcom » reply difficult job
Stephen Fitz-Gerald -
Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 2:49am
Stephen Fitz-Gerald » reply Thanks Stephen, after seeing
eligius1427 -
Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 10:55am
Thanks Stephen, after seeing all your work that's a great compliment. Jake Jake Balcom » reply hey Jake The end result
Canaday Designs -
Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 2:48am
hey Jake » reply Thanks Matt
eligius1427 -
Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 10:57am
Thanks Matt, let's hope it never happens again. Jake Jake Balcom » reply Hey Jake, You've done an
Jamie Santellano -
Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 11:28am
Hey Jake, Jamie Santellano » reply Hi Jake:So much said
NELSON -
Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 4:31pm
Hi Jake: So much said already about that good work of yours.I can barely imagen all the problems you had to solve with that curvy project. No cake huh. My guess is that you must have had that lower thick base plate very well anchored to withstand warping. Did you cool off w/water as welding of the posts proceeded? Great Job Jake. Greetings . nelson. » reply |
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Wow. tough is an
Wow. tough is an understatement. I can't emagine pulling off that job in an empty house, let alone one that is finished. It shows your skill to get the job done. Well done.
Don