LOVERS

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 LOVERSLOVERS: LOVERS“LOVERS” is my latest piece, hand forged, mild steel, copper, violet dye oxide patina, red solvent dye patina and 23k gold leaf. Size (w/o base) 10 ½” H x 3” w. Base is a freeform block of red sandstone.


Rich Waugh's picture

Very nice piece, Pat! I

Very nice piece, Pat! I like the use of color and the flow of the shapes. I'm not sure I like that base for it all that much, though.

I wonder how that piece would look mounted as a wall sculpture?

Rich


dowpat's picture

Base

It seems you are not alone about the base. Open for suggestions ( T G it has not been epoxied yet!!!!!). As for a wall sculpture how would you hang something like this? Frame? Stand off base? Here is a side view.

Thanks Pat
 Side ViewLovers Side View: Side View


Rich Waugh's picture

Pat, I think what I'd do (if

Pat,

I think what I'd do (if it were mine) is to make a small shelf about 3" in diameter with a simple corbel bracket under it. I'd cut a tangent off the back side of the disc so as to yield a 2" straight back. Does that make sense? I can see it in my mind but it's hard to describe, simple as it is. :-)

I'd keep it as simple and neutral as possible - probably paint it white. Nothing to distract from the piece itself.

That's my two cents worth, anyway.

Rich


dowpat's picture

Wall Art

Rich I understand your idea about the corbel bracket just not sure about this piece being wall art. I plan on trying other pieces like this and will give it a try. Speaking of wall art I have been talking with other local metal artist about “TAKING BACK THE WALLS” canvas artist have had them too long.


Stefani's picture

Lovers

I really like your piece. Very kool.


Frank Castiglione's picture

Great piece

Hi Dowpat,
The more I look at this work, the more I enjoy it. I also think the base is wrong.The inverted "T" is awkward. I think a circular chunk would be nice.
Frank


dowpat's picture

Base

Frank I am defiantly rethinking the base. What material/color would you suggest?


Frank Castiglione's picture

Roundish

Hi Pat,
I like the sandstone. Maybe you could chip out a more circular piece. I think a circle or hemisphere would compliment the sculpture.
Frank


dowpat's picture

Base

Frank I am defiantly rethinking the base. What material/color would you suggest?


dowpat's picture

Base

 NEW ROUND BASE   PC9 PATINA WITH BLACK WAX FINISHLOVERS NEW BASE: NEW ROUND BASE PC9 PATINA WITH BLACK WAX FINISHHere is the final base, thanks for the input.
Pat


lin's picture

base

Nice piece, Pat! I'd like to see a base that disapears. I have fence caps (which come in a variety of sizes) a couple of times. One might work used round end up, polished, and patinated with gun blue. Lin


Daedalus's picture

Base thoughts

Many times folks just seem to treat a sculpture base as an after thought and then wonder why the whole doesn`t look harmonious.
When I first sketch a piece I try to think about possible bases,frames,attachments to walls/ceiling etc.Not so much to lock something in as to get me thinking about how something would be best displayed.
When it comes down to decision time I try to think about what is the feeling I want to communicate with the piece,what kind of energy do I want it to convey to the viewer.
Once I have a handle on that I can design a final mounting that will go along with that energy.
A base can make a piece seem like it`s floating and singular or firmly grounded and bonded with whatever surface it is displayed on.A base can work with a sculpture if you design it to blend with,contrast to and be in tension with or elevate the work.It can be so minimal as to disappear all together and leave the work to speak for itself.
All things to think about before you just plunk your life`s work down on a store bought piece of highly polished black stone or wood.

As an example;This piece is about love/lovers.
What particular aspect of the subject are you most trying to communicate with this particular bit of work?
Once we have that information we can give much better suggestions than "It would look better if it was sitting on X".
If love is hot then a base of copper flames with heat patina.
If love hurts then a base studded with spikes,razor blades or made from barbed wire.
If love binds us together then a simple circle wrapped with cable or cordage.
If love gives us wings then hang it like a mobile.

Cold and industrial,polished aluminum.
Organic,lightly oiled weathered wood.
Timeless and enduring,stone.
You see where I`m coming from?

Think of your base as the punctuation at the end of your statement(the work).

In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is.


dowpat's picture

Thanks for the input

I still have a long way to go but will get there someday.


Daedalus's picture

Open to suggestions?

If it would be alright with you Pat ,could we use your piece to discuss some options for different bases/mountings?
If you are open to it then tell us what you were intending to communicate with this sculpture,what ideas brought it about.
Anybody else interested?

In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is.


dowpat's picture

BASES/MOUNTINGS

I have a tuff shin so lets go for it.
Most of the stuff I make I do because I want to and I don’t get into the meaning of it as some do. “The Lovers” were done as a quick sketch after seeing the love shared by a couple I know. I had two patterns cut out about a year ago and this is the first too be finished. The next one may be “The Kiss”. As for the base, after posting here and showing the piece to family and friends, everyone has their own ideas.
I then went of to local art galleries and the Museum of Contemporary Art and found not much different in bases just the usual square, round, high polished, semi gloss, simple base or my favorite the pedestal (no base). My questions are; is this because that is what the buyer wants, a fancy base takes away from the piece or artists do not have an imagination when it comes to bases?


crquack's picture

Amen to all that! I am not

Amen to all that!
I am not in the same league but I have learned quickly how bases enhance or detract from a piece. The downside: I had to get better at woodwork :-)

crquack


Daedalus's picture

Don`t you mean the upside?

Any time you gain new skills is a grand day isn`t it?
Even if you have to get a little distance for the happiness to set in and make it`s true nature known. ;^)

In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is.