whos using what cad and why

Hello all,
Wondering I have a new job coming up that of which I will be subbing a lot of work out. Usually I do all of my renderings by hand, but I think i need to step it up. with my cnc plasma I use coreldraw 9 for my cad side (its easy to use). It works for that but I need to do design and shop drawings for - multiple stair cases, awnings, railings / balcony's and, even kitchen cabinets. more importantly I must comunicate this all on paper for other shops, and I don't want to do it long hand.

QUESTION: what cad program should i go with, or since I'm not proficient should i do simple sketches and have an architect friend do the cad work?

thank you
matt


Rich Waugh's picture

Matt, I use TotalCad 1,

Matt,

I use TotalCad 1, about the dumbest CAD program going. I use it, not because it's really great, but because it is a dead ringer for the old DesignCad from American Small Business Systems that I used for the sign shop back in the eighties. Back then, it was a DOS-based program, and it worked just dandy, if slowly. Very slowly, but it was running on a 286 IBM with 640k RAM. It's quicker now. It will just barely communicate with high-end CAD programs like AutoCad and TurboCad, the two big names. It does work for me, though I don't have to share my drawings with any architects, fortunately.

All CAD programs have a long and steep learning curve, period. There's no getting around that. Expect it to take several intense months before you're even beginning to become comfortable with a high-end program, and a few years before you're proficient, at least from what I've been told. It took me a couple years to get fairly competent with my lameoid CAD program, so I'm not even thinking about getting anything sophisticated. I'm just not young enough to have the time to learn it before I cash in. (grin)


Rick Crawford's picture

CAD use

I use AutoCAD and have used CADKEY, Solid Works, and Inventor as well as others. Most are quite similar, and most have a large learning curve. (I've been doing cad for 25 years or more, so...) If the system you use works, why not continue to use it? If you are thinking of expanding and/or becoming more professional, then would be the time to start learning something else. BUT, as Rich says, it will take time to become proficient.

Rick Crawford at Smoky Forge


NA's picture

Rhino

I use rhino for all my work: http://www.rhino3d.com Probably a little more than you need for just producing 2D drawings, but it's the most intuitive 3D CAD software I've found. I use it to produce 3D objects, then "unroll" the surfaces to translate them into 2D cutting files (via DXF) for laser cutting. They have a free demo if you want to just give it a spin: http://www.rhino3d.com/eval.htm


Canaday Designs's picture

hey thanks, just downloaded

hey thanks, just downloaded it, and i like the price tag
matt


bpfink's picture

This is more of a continuing

This is more of a continuing question than an answer but Google also has a free CAD program called SketchUp.  I just downloaded it but have not done the tutorial yet so not sure about it yet.  They also have a more advanced version if you like it.  Does anyone know more about it that has used it already?     bpfink


eligius1427's picture

Hi Heath, I also downloaded

Hi Heath,
I also downloaded the demo, but have yet to give it a try. I think a 3D modeling program would be a great tool for both presentations and trouble shooting. Did you learn how to use the Rhino3D program(or a similar program) on your own or did you enroll in a class of some sort? I realize that these programs take an investment in time to learn, but is it doable on my own with 4-8 hours a week available, or would one need to invest a more substantial amount of time to be able to use it within 3-6 months?
Jake


visitor's picture

Sketchup is the way to

Sketchup is the way to go.

http://www.sketchup.com/?section=product


eligius1427's picture

Autosketch

I use a program by Autodesk called autosketch (version9 I think). It is a very basic version of autocad(no 3-d) but it does have layers and saves files in all the right formats for the higher end programs. I've never had a problem sharing files with other shops. I think I paid $125 for it and it has worked very well for me. Once I get the time and money I'd like to upgrade to a program that allows me to create 3-d drawings and renderings(heard a lot of good things about Rhino), but until then this gets me by.

Jake


Nathan Logsdon's picture

Okay- so it seems that there

Okay- so it seems that there is no escaping this is there? I have Autocad 2005 and can't even draw a box with it. The amount of time required to learn it and still run a business just don't mesh for me. Matt- I would suggest trying a small structural engineering firm since you will need them anyway. Maybe you can talk them into doing the other work for you while they're at it.