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chassing alluminum mask
ambition -
Saturday, April 5, 2008 - 9:28pm
aluminum | chasers | repousse-chasing next week I am going to chasse a mask out of alluminum sheet. tomorow Ill finsish my design model in clay(I actualy made a clay cast of my head for this model). tips for anealing and worktempratures for alluminum. how much hammer work before anealing again. alluminum can be anodised in to a great veriaty of awsome colours. I plann to do that with this mask. problem is the ink for these colours bought from a jewler suplyer is a bit expensive. I heard some rumours that you could also use the some ink for cloathing. is there anyone here with experiance or ideas? last question: on david haung his website earlyer posted on artmetal I saw him chassing on wax instead of pitch. I have hard modeling wax I think coud work. modeling wax would be cheaper, cleaner and easyer to remove from the sheet than pitch. Any one ever thit this? latter on I'll post some img material of this project. I hope you people can share some experience Grts Ambition ![]() Some alloys of aluminum
Bill Roberts (not verified) -
Monday, April 7, 2008 - 10:54am
Some alloys of aluminum don't forge/chase well. One way to tell if you have a "hard alloy(i.e. 7000 series)" is to take a small piece and see if it bends easily.......if it snaps when you bend it to 90 degrees, it might not be easy to chase and repousse. Doesn't mean you can still anneal it and try. :) While slowly heating up the sheet.....begin to rub the stick on the surface......when the aluminum is cold..the stick almost feels like an eraser ...it drags. But as the temperature rises.....rubbing the stick begins to leave a light brown mark.....and seems to "drag" less. As the temperature approaches the annealing temp. the "mark" gets darker(darker brown)and begins to slide across the surface of the aluminum. With thin sheet you need to be very careful as the "mark" gets darker.....with thin sheet I never go past "medium to dark brown mark". If you go until the mark is black......your very close to melting the aluminum. One other "visual" effect that you get when heating aluminum......RIGHT BEFORE it melts.....the surface gets a golden hue. Practice with a scrap first.....:) maybe even on a thicker piece if you've got one. bill ![]() here is a litle update on my
ambition -
Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 3:17am
here is a litle update on my mask project. first I made a template based on the model I made earlier. then I foldt the nose. note that this folding combined with the teplate saves time as apose to raisingh the nose. after that I started rough shaping by hammering on hammers fixed in the vice used as stakes. I also dit some hammering on the anvil and on wood. after that I started chassing. I tried using wax but the problem is it melts like watter. almost straight to liquid. while this mide be ideal voor filling and chasing a vessel for my mask its not idieal. also with pitch I can controll the hardnes better using a hot air gun(U know the ones you use for removing paint? whats the real english word for this tool?) grts ambition. ps: thanks for the anealing tips, I started before the replies with anealing and discored that my waterproof design lines indeed disapeard at the same time my wooden stik started to slide. just a bit above the that temprature my torch flame turns a bit jelow orange like when touching the metal, the same way it does on brass and silver. alluminum is an easy material to work with. thanks bill and visitor, anny advise on anodizing Al? ![]() Ambition, your making quick
Bill Roberts (not verified) -
Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 8:09am
Ambition, ![]() updat Al mask
ambition -
Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 6:59am
time for another update
forging & forming is now almost done. now its finishing and anodizing for a cool collour. again ANYONE with tips for anodizing Al & colour trix? thnks & grtz ambition out. ![]() Two Big Problems
visitor -
Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 7:50am
1st, Unknown alloy. Not all alloys of Al. are suitable for anodizing. Certain elements, unafected by the process may remain as inclusions on the surface. Suggest you experiment with scrap first. 2nd. Anodizing involves precise controll of voltage, amperage and time in an acid based electrolytic bath. Do you have this equipment? Commercial anodizing is availble as a service. Very risky seeing all the work in the mask. Consider Paint. Self etching primer followed by automotive paint. Some painters are getting unbelievable effects these days. Visitor Out. ![]() colour
ambition -
Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 8:18am
thnx visitor "from the four ellements water, wind, earth and fire mankind stole only one from the gods. ![]() anodizing Al
ambition -
Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 4:45pm
for anodizing Al? the colouring ink like substance I need to colour the britle white Al oxide layer is realy expensive if I buy it comercialy from jewler suplyers. I am just a student after all; ![]() Interesting
visitor -
Monday, April 14, 2008 - 8:30pm
Thanks for the lesson. Your question seems to be about dyes. Mineral dyes will work well on pure Al. Not sure what you have so can't offer much more. Can't login anymore. Computer might be broken. John Christiansen www.irondesign-ne.com |
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annealing aluminum
Aluminun temp of annealing is 640-670 degrees F. Higher or lower temp may give incomplete softening. Hot working temp for aluminum varies from 300 to 925 F, depending upon alloy and procedure. Some ways to gauge temp are; tempil sticks(650F) available at welding supply, digital lazer pyrometer(cheap these days) coating surface of metal with acet.only flame and then burning off the carbon with oxy-ace flame, and the old standby, rubbing a sliver of pine wood over the surface, it should just start to char the wood,giving a slippery feel. Wax may work, try it. Don't know about the dyes.